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judecorp ([personal profile] judecorp) wrote2006-10-27 05:37 pm
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House drama

So the skinny on the house is that the sellers are total asshats. Apparently they are pissed at us because we pushed for a sooner closing date (even though we ended up compromising with them on it) and they are also pissed because they received an offer that was higher than ours (full price, actually) but with the contingency that those buyers needed to sell their house first. So they picked us and were pissed that they weren't getting full price. Also, they told their realtor that they think we are jerks.

I feel like we were being totally reasonable. We weren't pushing for money for the roof that will need to be replaced in a few years, but there was a problem with the heating system that we wanted them to take care of. (There is no cold air return duct in the house. It is in the basement. Which kind of defeats the purpose.) They refused to have someone come and fix it - the stupid seller said that the only way he would fix it is if we agreed to let him fix it himself. And is he an HVAC tech? No. And would he agree that if we got an HVAC dude out there to check it out after and that person said it wasn't done right, he would pay? Absolutely not.

After having three sleepless nights about this house, we decided it is probably cheaper and easier on everyone's mental state to just cough up the money to install a cold air return duct in the house by a licensed technician ourselves rather than try to move twice or look for a new house or whatever. Jen can't couch surf forever and we can't afford to rent two places. Also, moving is a bitch on top of being expensive. So we finally just decided that we would let the asshat win and we would pay for the repair.

I just don't understand mean, inflexible people. I mean, when we sold my dad's house, we totally had the furnaces serviced because the inspector was concerned about them. It's what you do, people! Don't hold a grudge out on me, asshat, because your beloved buyer hasn't sold his house yet. But I couldn't take another night of going back and forth about not having a place to live.

~//~

I called my doctor's office about trying to get a follow-up beta hCG test and progesterone test. I wanted to get SOME sort of reassuring news in the midst of all of this drama. (See also: untold work drama story that is screwing me out of a month's health insurance.) I wanted to be able to go in tomorrow to make myself feel better but they won't take me on the weekend unless I'm bleeding. I guess that's fair but it will be hard to wait until Monday!

Also, I have been having cramps for days now. They make me very, very nervous.

[identity profile] authentichris.livejournal.com 2006-10-27 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Mean people are a way of life in that business, and the clients attitude is a reflection of the realtor--ifthe realtor sets expectations right (remember you should be happy if your offer is a 7 out of 10), there is less drama tension and conflict.

But Realtors don't get that.

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't have much of a business head. It's just the way it is. Which is why I'm a social worker and not a banker, I guess. ;)

[identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com 2006-10-27 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
people are asshats, and I sent you email.

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I will have to check!

[identity profile] hoo.livejournal.com 2006-10-27 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude had his chance to do DIY repairs on his house *before* the house inspection.

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, that's what I am talking about. Good.

(Anonymous) 2006-10-27 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
dude the cramps are TOTALLY normal and most likely will continue for the next few months - mine did! they feel like period cramps and made me nervous too....but it's just your uterus stretching b/c there is a HUMAN in there! Sarah Aubry

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I keep reading that but it doesn't make me feel less nervous when it happens! Argh!

[identity profile] volumeat11.livejournal.com 2006-10-27 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
You have every right to be irritated. But you're doing the smart thing by moving forward. The sellers don't have to like you...and frankly, some privacy stuff was violated in the fact that you know about other offers. (Who ever told you did a no-no.)

But regardless, this is an ugly process, that can be filled with ugly people. I hope now that everything's ironed out that is goes A MILLION TIMES SMOOTHER from here on in.

Good luck, and we'll talk soon...

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't know the ins and outs of the telling. As far as I know, it could be a total lie to threaten us to take the house. I don't trust anyone anymore. I think everyone is shady.

But yes, I hope things go more smoothly from now on, too!
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[personal profile] siercia 2006-10-27 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You do things like the service on the furnace at your father's house to avoid having to negotiate with a buyer. Lot's of people would not have had it done, and dealt with it if it had arisen in the sales process. That does not make them better or worse people, it is what it is.

Look at this from the seller's perspective. You're getting the house for less than he wanted for it, but he took your offer, and that's his business. You're asing his to "fix" something that has been the way it for likely the entire time he has owned the house, that he never saw as a necessity. You see it as a necessity, he likely does not.

He's entirely within his rights to decline the terms of your revised offer, post inspection. You're entirely within your rights to walk away from the house, given his decision to decline your offer. That's the way the process works. You need the house more than he needs to sell it to you. The reality of that puts the onus to be flexible on you, not him.

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, we actually serviced the furnace at dad's at the buyer's request. And in the end, a couple hundred dollars to make someone happy on a big sale seemed reasonable. Or maybe I'm just a nicer person.

I just don't understand why the guy refused to let us have someone inspect his DIY work. It's not like we were total freaks who said he had to give us money or else, we just said, "Hey, you're not an HVAC guy. We're not jazzed about you doing HVAC work. So can we have someone look at it after?" I feel like if he had planned on doing a decent job, he would have said yes. So now all I can think is that he was planning on doing a crappy job. I mean, he told Jen he wanted to put the cold air return in the LINEN CLOSET. Because there's a lot of air circulation in there? I have no idea what is in this dude's head.

Of course he's within his rights to decline anything he wants, and to be pissy about his decision to accept our offer when it wasn't full price. But it was HIS choice to accept, not ours. If we're jerks because we offered less, who's the jerk for accepting?

[identity profile] smurfbrother.livejournal.com 2006-10-30 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, we serviced the furnaces only after the buyer's inspection turned up that one of them would not light. This was due to the emergency shutiff being, well, shut-off, but that's irrelevant.

Also, we dropped $150 on routine cleaning and maintenance, not any kind of actual repair work.

[identity profile] sassywoman.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry about the cramps. I had them as you're describing for a few weeks after my BFP. Very normal!

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay. I keep reading that everywhere but it still freaks me out.

[identity profile] estrange.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well I'm glad you worked something out anyway. Worrying about the house is not helping with the pregnancy so try not to if you can! Did you ever try those relaxation cds I sent?

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I did. I listened to one of them in the bathtub one time and another time I listened to another one. And then I cleaned up my whole desk area one day and now I can't find them!

Argh! (But thank you for sending them!)

[identity profile] estrange.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I think I remember having some slight cramping after getting pregnant so hopefully everything is fine!

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep reading that it can be totally normal, I just get nervous.

[identity profile] kjames.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
the sellers? you're right, total asshats. i don't understand people that don't take responsiblity for things (see: current untold drama in my life). holy shite it makes me cranky.

the cramps *could* be due to implantation. i had some when i was first pregnant with greta. so maybe?

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, really, what is so hard about agreeing to have someone check your DIY work? If you are planning to do a good job, should it matter? All this says to me is "dude was not planning to do a good job."

I don't like that people are being mean to my Karen. That is totally unacceptable. I unaccept!

I keep reading that first tri cramps are totally normal. I am just neurotic. ;)

[identity profile] kjames.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
i totally agree with you.

thanks jude. i wish this crap wasn't going on. i'd like talk more freely about it, but i can't for certain reasons. but i appreciate that you care. :)

welcome to being pregnant. it's like an introductory lesson on being neurotic, to prepare you for new-mommyhood. :D

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-29 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Just remember that I will rough anyone up who is mean to my Karen! So they'd better STOP!!

But honey, if I NEED any more lessons on being neurotic... ;)

[identity profile] kjames.livejournal.com 2006-10-30 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
:)

[identity profile] violane.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
I had cramps for weeks after I first got pregnant; many women do! Totally normal.

We had sellers like that when we bought our house. They wouldn't do a single thing we asked. We totally caved to them, though, because it was a seller's market and we really wanted the house. We're still happy here and it was all worth it, but it was quite a trial at the time! Good luck.

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't understand people AT ALL. I mean, the freaking seller's agent was at the inspection and agreed that the heating duct problem was a problem that should be addressed on the seller's side. So I guess Dude is just pissy because he wants his money, but doesn't want to wait. And I guess I don't understand that because I don't really understand the whole money thing. *shrug* I don't even want to meet them, because I think I will try to poke them in the eye!

[identity profile] violane.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand the money thing either. Oh well, you'll be a happier, more peaceful person in the long run. :)

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-29 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Gosh, I hope that's true.

[identity profile] laserkitty.livejournal.com 2006-10-28 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I had cramps for about a month and a half after I got pregnant...and I had what I would have thought was a normalish period in my first month. It IS scary, but Beano is here and ok, so try not to worry too much....some weird stuff is normal. :)

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-29 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for commenting. I think I would freak out if I had bleeding. So far, so good. But you know, the cramps seem totally manageable when I am NOT having them, and then another one comes and I am all "oh no" again. You'd think having all this crap going on would distract me, but nooooo. :)

(Anonymous) 2006-10-29 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
Adding to everyone else's...
I only stopped feeling pre-menstrual a couple of weeks ago. Early pregnancy felt exactly the same to me as getting my period, and in fact my mind would say "Gee, period's coming" before I could remind myself that I was pregnant! It's just your uterus pressing down on the embryo to check it's there. Don't stress too much!
xxx Mermaidgrrrl

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-29 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad it's a more common phenomenon in people that I know. Lots of info on it online, but you know, it's always better to have a human face to put on it.

Destressing beginning... now. Or maybe in a few minutes. ;)

[identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com 2006-10-30 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get mean, unreasonable people either. I don't get what they get out of it, really.

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-10-30 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. I just don't have it in me to be like that. I mean, I have my moments when I'm not the nice, open-minded person I want to be... but I feel like I'm a reasonable person. You too.

Mean people suck.

[identity profile] shadist.livejournal.com 2006-10-30 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
What an ass.

[identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously.