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John Ashcroft sings.

Ummmm..

Date: 2002-03-05 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hazelpeach.livejournal.com
Paint me silly.. but who?

Re: Ummmm..

Date: 2002-03-05 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythicalbeast.livejournal.com

The Attorney General, as head of the Department of Justice and chief law enforcement officer of the Federal Government, represents the United States in legal matters generally and gives advice and opinions to the President and to the heads of the executive departments of the Government when so requested. The Attorney General appears in person to represent the Government before the U.S. Supreme Court in cases of exceptional gravity or importance.

That would be John Ashcroft.

*BUH-LINKS!*

Date: 2002-03-05 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hazelpeach.livejournal.com
Oh.

That John Ashcroft.


Now I'm going to have nightmares.

Date: 2002-03-05 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
Oh.
My.
Goddess.

And this is the guy who had the boobies covered up in the Capitol rotunda while he addresses the press? How bout he censors those pipes of his instead? I'm wondering when my seizure will start. Someone keep me from biting my tongue off.

Date: 2002-03-05 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythicalbeast.livejournal.com
Same guy, and he also thinks that calico cats are servants of the devil.

please...

Date: 2002-03-05 12:58 pm (UTC)
siercia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] siercia
please please please please tell me you are kidding.

Re: Ummmm..

Date: 2002-03-05 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Our lovely ickynasty Attorney General.

Date: 2002-03-05 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
For real? For real about the calico cats?

Date: 2002-03-05 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scirocco.livejournal.com
Hey, we've got a demon-cat! Hooray!

Date: 2002-03-05 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
I got a tortoiseshell, does she count? I wanna be able to say she is from Hades and be validated by the Attorney Shmuck.

Date: 2002-03-05 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythicalbeast.livejournal.com
Well offically the comment made Ashcroft laugh... which isn't an outright deny in my book...

Last three paragraphs in this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,661458,00.html

Date: 2002-03-05 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rizzo41.livejournal.com
Weird. I've referred to my tortoise shell cat as 'Devil Cat' since the day I got her. Must be a sign.

Date: 2002-03-05 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarabeth.livejournal.com
I think John Ashcroft should be invited to sing at the next Multicultural Affairs event, and to give the next education on "Overcoming Heterosexism."

;-)

Date: 2002-03-05 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarabeth.livejournal.com
And speaking of kittens...

http://www.ripebastard.com/fluffykittens.jpg
(http://www.ripebastard.com/fluffykittens.jpg)

Date: 2002-03-05 02:00 pm (UTC)

Date: 2002-03-05 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
you are a prophet!

Date: 2002-03-05 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
I say it counts!

Date: 2002-03-05 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
*giggles*

Date: 2002-03-05 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I mean, I know my Ralphie Doodle is psycho, but...

could it be... Satan?

Date: 2002-03-05 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Bwa ha ha ha!

Date: 2002-03-05 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
June 5th! Watch the sky!

Date: 2002-03-05 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Hee. He can speak right up here on my 4th floor!

Date: 2002-03-05 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
John Ashcroft is a nightmare of mine. Like, I'm afraid that I will have children and they will be like him. It's the worst thing I can imagine.

Date: 2002-03-05 02:39 pm (UTC)
siercia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] siercia
*shudder* That which you speak of is the stuff of my nightmares.

Date: 2002-03-05 02:41 pm (UTC)
siercia: (kitties)
From: [personal profile] siercia
Well, technically, she's a tortiseshell, not a calico.

But she's still a demon.

Date: 2002-03-05 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michael622.livejournal.com
It's a good thing he was singing that at a seminary. If he started singing that in a regular political meeting or press conference, I'd be up in arms. The message is okay but "Only God, no other King?" Give me a freakin' break.

Date: 2002-03-05 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
What's wrong with that?

We don't have a monarchy.

Date: 2002-03-05 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
I'm ashamed to admit this, but I actually liked John Ashcroft (poor guy...as an INCUMBENT he LOST to a guy who'd been dead for several weeks!!), and Gordon-Conwell was one of the seminaries I considered attending.

Now I've lost all respect for both.

Ugh...nothing ticks me off like religious songs disguised as patriotic anthems. I don't think God really gives a rip about this country. I really don't. People, yes. Countries? I don't think so. If he did, I think he'd be running for President.

And why is it that fundamentalists seem to think that if you can't sing, vibrato will cover over a multitude of sins?

Date: 2002-03-05 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michael622.livejournal.com
He didn't mean it in a political sense. He means it in a spiritual sense. What about Allah? What about Buddha? I just think it's a bit inconsiderate for one of America's political leaders to insert the phrase "Only God, No Other King" in a song that he shares while serving in his official capacity. On his own time? Write it! Sing it! Take it to church with you! But he wouldn't have been speaking at that seminary if he wasn't the Attorney General, and I think it's a bit non-inclusive to suggest that "Only God" is appropriate for an American society.

Date: 2002-03-05 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michael622.livejournal.com
I cry shenanigans! The page has been removed! *sniff* What was it?

Date: 2002-03-05 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I remember having this conversation with you. Eek! The only way my child could rebel is to become conservative!

EEK!

Date: 2002-03-05 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Well, I think the bad-singing message is that "With God, All Voices Are Beautiful."

Which is simply not true.

Date: 2002-03-05 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
Officially, the government doesn't define that God. I didn't hear him excluding Allah, or Zoroaster, or Cthulhu. I found the song horribly Masonic, personally. It didn't strike me as particularly Christian. Us Presbortholicostals would be pleased as punch if he'd just come on out and say "JESUS!," especially considering that he was at a blatantly evangelical seminary.

I bet there's not a few students who were there at that graduation from BOTH extremes (that is, yours and mine) who were a little peeved.

Date: 2002-03-05 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
Didn't Cat Stevens say something like that, in praise to Allah?

Date: 2002-03-06 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I'm not sure. What I am sure about, though, is that you stood me up last night. =P

Date: 2002-03-06 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
No no no...the curse is to have children EXACTLY like YOURSELF. At least thats what I heard. :P I am so thankful for my petrified ovaries.

*smile*

Date: 2002-03-06 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
While my ovaries aren't petrified, I don't ovulate, and therefore, no genetic spawn.

So I won't have any widgets exactly like me (though I'm SO COOL!!)... but I will raise kids one day, and I /so/ don't want them to "rebel" to the right. :)

Date: 2002-03-06 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
:(

I feel really bad about that. I forgot completely about it until 9:30 PST, at which point I assumed you'd be fast asleep.

Your phone number is burning a hole in my pocket.

(I hope it burns through to the OUTside!) :/

Date: 2002-03-06 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
*sniffle sniffle* I'm sure I'll get over it.

(Actually, I crashed and burned at 11pm EST, so you did the right thing!)

Tonight is another night, you know. ;)

Date: 2002-03-06 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
Oh! Is THAT what it is!

Tautologies are so interesting.

My logic professor was fond of telling us that he could solve the problem of the weatherman being so often wrong by giving a report that would ALWAYS be correct. "It is either raining, or it is not raining," he would say.

Tautologies are interesting, but uninformative.

Date: 2002-03-06 08:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Wow. I'm going to have to try that at work.

"You are either crazy, or not crazy."

Hee.

Date: 2002-03-06 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarabeth.livejournal.com
Um. Actually according to the OED, tautology is :


Example : "It will rain today, and there will also be rain during some part of the day."
[both of the clauses express the same idea, within the understanding of natural language.]

In logic tautology usually means you have postulated the conclusion you are trying to get. Your example is different, because the two parts are understood as being contradictory -- the "error" is due to them being NOT the same. So you have what I might loosely call an all-inclusive statement, A + not-A, which tells us "nothing." (Or rather it tells us that rain exists, that a universe exists, even that a person capable of generating propositions exists, but nothing about rain in that universe, nor if it will rain today.)

So while it's "true" that the answer to a yes/no question will be "either yes or no," most people don't find such an answer particularly helpful. It's a well-formed statement (synthetic truth) that can't be used to determine any analytic truths.

End philosophical English major moment.

And I just narrowly avoided an ubergeek moment where I stated the information theory equation by which a prediction of an event least likely to happen contains the "most" information and is the most "interesting."

Good thing I gave up on being a math prodigy when it turned out I wasn't one.

Date: 2002-03-06 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
You'd be crazy to think so, or you'd be sane.

Date: 2002-03-06 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
I can accept that. And I won't reject it, either.

Re:

Date: 2002-03-06 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarabeth.livejournal.com
Exactly. =)

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