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Someone just typed this about me:

you seem to focus on negativity and other issues that don't have entirely much to do with sexual preferences

I am totally floored. Floored, I tell you! I don't think there's ever been a single person in my whole entire short life who has told me that I focus on negativity!

(For context, the debate has been about queer people at Pride festivals, and while it started with why some people act flamboyantly or deviantly and 'make the community look bad,' it's become about how 'people don't notice someone is gay until they do stereotypically gay things.' For the record, I decided to mention 'stereotypically gay things' like holding hands in public, putting pictures of partners up at work, and genderbending.)

Date: 2003-07-01 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swisscheesed.livejournal.com
That person is full of crock and obviously doesn't know you at all.

Date: 2003-07-01 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
?

I really don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

Date: 2003-07-01 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pica-nc.livejournal.com
I hate that people perceive views differing from their own as "negative" or hostile.

I think that in itself is rather negative :) And hostile.

Date: 2003-07-01 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinite-love.livejournal.com
Well, I don't know you at all really, but I wouldn't ever think to describe what I DO know of you as a person that focuses on negativity. You have one of the few journals that I still read on LJ beause I like to read of lesbian women existing in healthy, loving relationships, and since that is what you and Jen embody, I dont see how that can be coined "negative".

Question: how can "holding hands in public, putting pictures of partners up at work..." be termed stereotypically gay when that exists in the heterosexual world also? Holding hands in public and putting pics of my lady-love in my wallet and in my work locker seems natural to me...

Date: 2003-07-01 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
I'm more flabbergasted by the *second* part of his/her quote, as if this individual assumes that everything in your life is somehow altered by your sexual preference.

[sarcasm]

Gee, hmm...wow, Jude, you cook macaroni and cheese just like a straight person! I never would have guessed!

And...wow...you sure don't look gay while you're pumping gas. (Quite the contrary really...woot!)

And I bet your toilet paper at home comes over the top of the roll instead of under the bottom. Gosh, that's so...straight!

[/sarcasm]

it never ceases
to amaze me. look around:
some people are dum


Incidentally, putting up pictures of partners at work and holding hands in public are not stereotypically gay. [Genderbending may be.] :)

Date: 2003-07-01 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 00solstice.livejournal.com
you cook macaroni and cheese just like a straight person!

hey now... everybody knows macaroni is bent. [/end bad pun]

Date: 2003-07-01 11:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kaasirpent
Unless, of course, you make it with penne, which is so very straight. :)

Date: 2003-07-02 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermil.livejournal.com
Oh Puh-lease. You are Joe Positive and that person needs to SIMMER THE HELL DOWN.

Date: 2003-07-02 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I thank you for your compliments. I was thinking about you the other day, actually. I was in Target, and looked for you.

I suppose I didn't explain enough of the conversation. The other person said, basically, that "gay people only get noticed [which I took to mean noticed unfavorably] when they do stereotypically gay things" and that most people don't know who's gay and who isn't, so they leave them alone. I was listing off things I'd been berated for in the past (putting up a picture, holding hands, etc.) and was asking if those were the stereotypical gay acts he was talking about.

Date: 2003-07-02 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Well, actually, it makes more sense if you see the whole conversation... but I didn't want to post the name or the thread because I didn't want a bunch of people going there and ganging up.

I know some genderbending straight people!

Date: 2003-07-02 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
You make me giggle!

Date: 2003-07-02 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sudrin.livejournal.com
Well, if it was a man who said it, its obvious the problem:

"Women good.. Men bad." ;-)

Date: 2003-07-02 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Sic the Brigade on 'im!

HA!

Date: 2003-07-02 07:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2003-07-02 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
I like you just the way you are.

Date: 2003-07-02 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Now I have Billy Joel in my head!

Re:

Date: 2003-07-02 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
Really? Tell me more about Billy Joel in your head.

Date: 2003-07-02 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Well, it's a good thing it's not a WHOLE Billy Joel, because he's kind of BIG, and my head is small.

So it's a little bit of Billy Joel. Like maybe his goatee or something. Does he even have a goatee? Mommy?

Re:

Date: 2003-07-02 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
This is almost like talking to the twins. You are too good!

Re:

Date: 2003-07-02 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 00solstice.livejournal.com
That's true. But aside from Pelegrino-drinking yuppies and other uber-sophisticated urbanites, who makes macaroni and cheese with penne? :-)

Re:

Date: 2003-07-02 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffholton.livejournal.com
That sounds oxymoronic.

(I'm speaking strictly semantically, of course.)

Date: 2003-07-03 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Practice.

Date: 2003-07-04 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cfred.livejournal.com
So what does it say if you make macaroni and cheese with spiral pasta?

Re:

Date: 2003-07-04 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 00solstice.livejournal.com
that you're twisted?

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