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Jul. 2nd, 2003 10:54 am
judecorp: (grouchy smurf)
[personal profile] judecorp
Between the bleeding and the hormones, I am a big mess. I'm trying to decide if I should take three more days of progesterone. Last night I had a veritable nervous breakdown, and was pretty much beside myself. All I could really think to do was curl up on my side thinking over and over:

thisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappeningthisshouldnotbehappening

Now I run errands all over klumbis.

Date: 2003-07-02 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murnkay.livejournal.com
*bigtightmonkeyluvhug*

I'm so sorry jude.

Date: 2003-07-02 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doulamel.livejournal.com
*hugs* That really sucks. You're right, it shouldn't be happening. *yells at your doc*

Date: 2003-07-02 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoic2them.livejournal.com
man, that completely sucks. i'll punch your doc in the face if you want. i hit hard and people don't generally hit me back because i'm smaller than them. so i'll see you in what, 12 hours?

and if you're not the vengeful type (cuz i think you are probably not) i'll just send you some hugs and hope that you feel better soon. when i feel like dump, i turn to netflix and the ps2. it's escapist, but it's something.

*hugs*

Date: 2003-07-02 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermil.livejournal.com
Your doctor sounds like a QUACK. Did she/he/whoever have a bright orange bill and white feathers?

Surely wanting to curl up into a teeny tiny ball and feeling deranged is a sign that, oh, I don't know, your uterus should be left the hell alone.

Date: 2003-07-02 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyvacantone.livejournal.com
*hugs* Feel better sweetie.

Date: 2003-07-02 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
yuck. i am really sorry.

Date: 2003-07-02 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Monkeyluvins make it all good.

Date: 2003-07-02 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
It's not the hormone so much as the actual period stuff. It's been so long since I've had to deal with it, that I'd pretty much forgotten about how it messes up my self-image.

Aah well. I stopped taking the progesterone today. Screw it. I'm already starting to bleed, so why bother?

Date: 2003-07-02 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Oooh, maybe I can watch Tank Girl because that came from Netflix. That's like an ass-whooping /and/ something peaceful, right??!?!

Bleh.

Date: 2003-07-02 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
HA HA HA HA HA HA about the QUACK!

It's not her (the doctor's) fault. I mean, it's not like I told her, "You know, I'm not sure this will be a good thing, because, you see, I'm genderqueer and having my period like a girl is really going to mess with me emotionally." She was just doing her job.

Date: 2003-07-02 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Are you coming on Saturday?

Date: 2003-07-02 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
It's so good to see that name!

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Date: 2003-07-02 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
MEEP BLEEP!

Date: 2003-07-02 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doulamel.livejournal.com
Fair enough. And since some people bleed for a day and others for a week, who's to say what might be right for you.

Date: 2003-07-02 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Exactly. It's not like I have a lot of comparison. I'll see what happens, but if I start gushing for my weekend out-of-town guests, or for my damned party, I'm a-gonna be pretty pissed!!

Date: 2003-07-02 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doulamel.livejournal.com
Hopefully it'll be all over by then, mood and all. Who is coming from out of town?

Date: 2003-07-02 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phatsin8.livejournal.com
I'm right with you on the pain and the bleeding and the hormones, hon. I think this has been my worst "female time" EVER. Perhaps I'm having sympathy suffering?

Date: 2003-07-02 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doulamel.livejournal.com
Cool. Looking forward to meeting them. :)

Date: 2003-07-02 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-chan.livejournal.com
I can't say much more than *hugs*. My one roommate (also genderqueer) feels the same way when she gets her period, and I wish I could say or do something to make her feel better.

I know alot of MtFs who tell girls that they'd kill to have a period. I am not one of them. I had an ex who used to get severe cramps every month with hers. I don't wish for that at all. Besides which, I'm genderqueer, no matter how you slice me. ;) I wouldn't want to bleed, but I also hate nocturnal emissions, too. *shrugs*

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Date: 2003-07-02 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyvacantone.livejournal.com
I sure am!! I can't wait to see your place!

Date: 2003-07-02 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indigodove.livejournal.com
*HUG* I'm sorry to hear this. One suggestion -- talk to your doctor about the problems it causes you to do this -- maybe the dosage is too high or something.

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Date: 2003-07-03 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermil.livejournal.com
Okay. I am ignorant, I freely admit. Young Judith, what does "genderqueer" mean? Inquiring minds want to know.

Date: 2003-07-03 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I've never actually met [livejournal.com profile] therewaslight, and I'm excited too!

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Date: 2003-07-03 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I can't wait to see your boobs!

Date: 2003-07-03 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
We can suffer together, like women!

Date: 2003-07-03 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Hrm, I wonder which I'd prefer - nocturnal emissions or periods? I guess I'd say the former, but it's probably easier for me to say since I've never had them.

I'm pretty fortunate on the cramps front, since I tend not to get them badly and also have an obnoxiously high pain tolerance. But I feel so run down and blah, which of course certainly doesn't help my sunny disposition!

I'll just keep telling myself, "Hopefully after this, I'll be set for another 6 months or more."

Honestly, I can't see why any MtFs would want their period, unless they really really want to conceive children. Which I suppose is totally valid.

Date: 2003-07-03 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I don't know if there is another dosage. It's just progesterone that you take for 10 days (but shh, don't tell, I stopped after a week) and then it makes you bleed. Whee!

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Date: 2003-07-03 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
(It's so hot when you speak to me in Jedi.)

In the quickest terms I can possibly muster, so I can tackle the boxes on the first floor, I will say this:

Some people (like myself) don't believe that there are only two values for gender - male and female. They believe that some people, for whatever reason, fall somewhere in between and thus don't/can't/won't identify as strictly male or female. Piggybacking on the LGB caravan, a subset of the transgender community is using the term "genderqueer" to indicate this fluidity, this in-between-ness, this lack of satisfaction with gender/biological sex congruence but no desire to simply switch to the other gender.

This is likely why you've seen me call myself both 'boy' and 'girl' at times, and use both 'he' and 'she' to refer to myself. Does that help at all?

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Date: 2003-07-03 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyvacantone.livejournal.com
I think you meant I can't wait to see your boobs! :)

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Date: 2003-07-03 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Damn. Ya got me.

Date: 2003-07-03 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-chan.livejournal.com
Most of my nocturnal emissions have, historically, occured around the time to get up, which makes for a very embarassing wet spot on one's pajamas. Or there was the one I had while I was napping on a Saturday afternoon at my parents'. Oy...they suck.

Most of the MtFs want the period because they really want to conceive, but more as a combination of having that ability if they desired it and (mostly) as a badge of their "womanhood". Personally, I could care less. I think about the fact that cramps are not pleasant, and actually giving birth is likely even more painful, and I'd just prefer to adopt a kid if I really wanted one. *shrugs* I know that makes me a bad trannie, not wanting to be just like the other girls, but then I'm smart enough to know that all girls are not the same, too. ;)

Date: 2003-07-05 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I know that makes me a bad trannie, not wanting to be just like the other girls, but then I'm smart enough to know that all girls are not the same, too. ;)

I love this line so much. You rock.

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Date: 2003-07-07 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermil.livejournal.com
Yes. That sounds like it was what I thought it was, but I just wanted to make sure.

Date: 2003-07-07 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
You are so SMART. You make the Brigade proud.

Date: 2003-07-08 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-chan.livejournal.com
Hehehe...thanks. It's pretty much what pushes me through life, day-by-day, knowing that I ought to be myself, not some reflection of stereotypes. :)

Date: 2003-07-08 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
And you're likely much better adjusted because of it. You're deciding who YOU want to be, rather than looking at some picture or idea and trying to be that. :)

Date: 2003-07-08 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-chan.livejournal.com
Not only that, but I'm not trying to be who the gender docs think I should be. That's part of the reason why I don't want to get near Meral Crane. I am not going to play the game just to satisfy some messed up doc's idea of what I should be. I'd probably even intentionally show up in flannels and trying to look all butch, just to tweak her. I'm evil that way! ;)

Date: 2003-07-08 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I hate the idea that one would have to fit the societal stereotype in order to be a "true" transperson or whatever. Isn't part of the problem the societal stereotypes in the first place??!?!

Date: 2003-07-10 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-chan.livejournal.com
Yes, it is. Alas, that's the way that it's been for trans-people up until about the 1997 revision of the SOC, or there abouts. Heck, I know that prior to 1990 the SOC wouldn't recommend HRT or SRS for someone who's sexual orientation in their "biological" gender was heterosexual. Up to that point they basically only saw it as being acceptable if it would "cure" a homosexual.

The whole realm of therapy for gender different people has been so wrapped up in byzantine ideology and the thought that it could be a "cure" for homosexuality. It's only been in the last 10 years that any real serious reform of these archaic ideas has occured.

And there are getting to be more and more transpeople like me, who aren't going to be frilly girls in flowery dresses. And that's a GOOD thing!

Date: 2003-07-10 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
And there are getting to be more and more transpeople like me, who aren't going to be frilly girls in flowery dresses. And that's a GOOD thing!

Yeah, but why would they want more girls who dress like boys? They've already got their hands full with a bunch of dirty lesbians! ;)

Date: 2003-07-10 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-chan.livejournal.com
Because dirty lesbians kick ass! ;)

Date: 2003-07-10 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Rowr. Yes.

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