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This morning, after Jen and I puttered around on our computers for a bit, we got back into bed and curled all up under the covers (it was quite chilly in the Judecorp HQ) and just started talking about everything. We had such a fantastic conversation about where we are right now, where we want to be in the future, and when, and what we want it to look like. We talked about Boston, and moving here, and whether we screwed up, and if we want to do anything about it. We just talked and talked and talked, and it was so fabulous. I love when we really work together as a team. It's the best!

Jen has stated that while she doesn't mind her job, she does not want to be a retail sales associate at Levenger for a long time, especially under a manager who knows less than she does and has less experience. She wants to wait it out for a little while and see if Levenger really does have plans to open another stand-alone store (and if they would be willing to let her run it if they did). At the same time, I want a couple more months to see if I can possibly get into a job that is more in line with what I want to do.

We're going to re-evaluate our situation over the holidays. At that time, we will have gotten our security deposit back from our landlords (they said they would hold it for 6 months), we will have some holiday money from our families, and we will be expecting a little tax refund. So at that time, when we have a little bit of money, we are going to decide if life in Boston is really going to be a place where we can meet our goals. If in a couple of months we are still thinking about moving, we will take a little vacation to Portland or some other place we decide in the meantime is better for us. We'll go for a week or so and check it out, see if we like it, see if the weather is to our liking, see if the houses appeal to us, etc. If we /do/ like it, after all that, we'll start actively looking for jobs there. Both of us have agreed that we do not want to ever move anywhere without at least one of us having a job.

In the meantime, Jen is going to send her resume to [livejournal.com profile] technodyke just in case she hears about anything good, and I will continue keep my eyes peeled for dream jobs for Jen (something I've been doing since before we moved here), but I will look not only in Boston but also Portland. I will keep my eye on the housing market out there and keep doing my homework.

If by the holidays I have not found a job more suited to my wants/needs, and Jen has not heard anything more about Levenger stores, I am going to stop looking for new jobs in Boston because at that point moving will become more likely, and the last thing I want to do is switch jobs again and again and again. It will be weird to stop looking for jobs! I have been doing it since like April or something.

The bottom line to all of this is that Jen and I talked a lot today and decided that THE most important thing to us right now is for us to keep as close as possible to the "we want to make a baby by:" date that we set last year when we were planning such things. Next year was the year to start working on getting ready for conception/adoption (whichever we wanted to go with first), with 2006 being Baby Year. We agreed this morning that we don't want to push that back if we can help it. So if living in Boston is going to make those plans impossible (i.e. with no way to make enough money to support a child, pay for child care or a stay-home parent, purchase a home or rent a home that allows children, etc.) then we have to say sayonara to Boston. Moving here was a dream we were determined to live, but never at the expense of our other dreams.

I feel so much better after having that talk. Jen and I make such a great team and it's so refreshing to really be on the same page about something again after all of the stressful times we've had recently. <3 Jen <3

Date: 2004-09-13 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peaceorchestra.livejournal.com
OMGAHDZ..You two look so cute together *g*. I'm glad you two are getting all your dreams together! Boston doesn't sound like a bad idea!

Cuddling and talking is nice, Huh? *snort*

-Heather

Date: 2004-09-13 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayna.livejournal.com
ooh babies!!!
If you intend on adopting at some point, and adopting an infant, i'd recommend doing that first, I heard that some places don't relaly want them to go to families with children already.

Date: 2004-09-13 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ktmcda.livejournal.com
portland, MAINE?!?!?!??!

yay!

Date: 2004-09-13 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Really? That is so... wrong. Do they not want them to go to people with ANY children, or just biochildren? Because I can't imagine some sort of rule that says you can only adopt one kid or whatever.

Wow. That is just. Wow.

My current plan for adopting, though, is for us to become foster-to-adopt foster parents. I don't know that they particularly care if there are other children.

Date: 2004-09-13 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Oh (oops), no. The, erm, other side of the country.

Date: 2004-09-13 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I can't help it, I'm like a compulsive planner or something. :)

Date: 2004-09-13 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemur68.livejournal.com
If you go to Oregon you'll be right next to me! :D

Date: 2004-09-13 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ktmcda.livejournal.com
HISSSSSSS~~~

Date: 2004-09-13 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayna.livejournal.com
That's just what I heard, that they give preference to people with no children. Not that it's impossible, just more difficult, KWIM?

That was just for adopting infants though, foster-to-adopt would be different, especially with older kids. One of my coworkers, they adopted a 5 year old (he's like 7 now) and it's been very positive experience.

Date: 2004-09-13 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Ideally I'd like to foster-to-adopt a child placed as an infant. (They usually give preference to foster parents when parental rights are terminated.) But who knows? I guess that's something we'll have to look into when the time is right. I know I don't want to adopt a child that is older than, say, three or four, especially if it's our first child.

Date: 2004-09-13 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
But I LOVE YOU!!!

Date: 2004-09-13 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Yeah, like you're ever leaving Ohio. ;)

Date: 2004-09-13 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayna.livejournal.com
They're potty trained and they sleep through the night at that point, which would be huge advantages to an older child. :-D

Date: 2004-09-13 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Well, you'd HOPE they're potty trained and sleep through the night, but depending on the situation, they could also have PTSD or attachment problems or a whole host of other issues. =P

Date: 2004-09-13 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayna.livejournal.com
True. Infants could have had a mother on drugs while pregnant too, and end up with a whole host of problems as well. My co-worker got really lucky, his son doesn't really have any problems whatsoever.

Date: 2004-09-13 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] folkyboy.livejournal.com
i think it was with you i was discussing how much i loved just having discussions with someone and that very moment when you suddenly realize "woah...we're having a deep conversation" in the middle, before it can even be verbalized. or before you even realized you'd just sat down to have very much that :)

communication is so fucking cool!

Date: 2004-09-13 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antipixie-karee.livejournal.com
It's so nice to know there's a stable couple out there... somewhere. Christi and I have only been together since last Nov. and we are the most "normal" gay couple I know of. I'm not used to commitment, stability or anything like this and sometimes it freaks me out a little... especially making "our future" plans and things. That's probably what draws me to your journal posts more than anything (that and you have correct grammar. :D)

So, thank you for the positive energy you both bring and being my sheeee-ros!

Great title

Date: 2004-09-13 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinksnow.livejournal.com
That's a good recipe.

Date: 2004-09-13 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A close friend of mine went the route of foster to adoption. She had her first child (bio)then could not have anymore. She became a foster mom. she has adopted 5 out of the 6 kids she had in her home. (the 6th went back to his bio mom,though she did try to adopt him too). Most of the kids have parents who are crack addicts etc. Some of her kids have emotional/learning problems. I give her a lot of credit. She just recently had to give a baby back to his mom,he came to her house when he was 3 months old,she had him for 1 yr. The mom proved to the court that she was reformed. That is the heartbreaking part of it all. Be prepared for that.

You know reading about your plan, I now see why you ended up in this job you are in now. I think this will give you a edge on being a foster mom AND might even help you with adoption in the long run. Things ALWAYS happen for a reason. Oh as far as adoption, I have a few friends who have adopted after having Bio children. It all depends on the situation.

Good luck on your journey!

Date: 2004-09-13 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cranapril.livejournal.com
There are also other ways to adopt... John was a teenager, his sister 12, when Kimmie arrived, 5 months old, from Korea. John says it was the best thing to happen to his family and he hopes that one day, we'll adopt a baby.

No doubts about fertility here (just hearing a newborn cry causes a nursing 'letdown' tingle in me) and we've been talking about baby #3 for a few months now.

See... John was born in '70, me in '75... Johnny in '95 and Paul Dec. 2000. If I want to keep on track, we gotta get moving before April of next year.

Baby baby baby.

Careful, they're contagious!

Date: 2004-09-14 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estrange.livejournal.com
I'm so glad you had a talk with her. I think things will work out great for you both!

Date: 2004-09-15 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prunesnprisms.livejournal.com
That sounds like a good, healthy talk. =) I'm glad to hear it. I occasionally get to take part in such conversations myself (one very recently) and they always leave me warm and fuzzy.

Date: 2004-09-15 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Warm fuzzies are the best. :)

Date: 2004-09-15 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Me too, me tooooooo!

Date: 2004-09-15 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Yeah, international adoption is an option, and we will definitely look into it when the time is right. It's also expensive - a friend of mine ([livejournal.com profile] jjustj) just returned from Kazakhstan with his new baby! Exciting!

You are one of the most fetile people I know! It's like you start knitting a baby blanket and the next thing you know, you're pregnant. I'm looking forward to hearing about baby #3 (if that's really going to happen). How many kids do you want to have?

And I /wish/ it was contagious. I can't wait!

Date: 2004-09-15 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Thank you for all of the positive words. I wish I knew more about my mystery poster - you always have such nice things to say. :)

I can't wait to be a parent. I am practically dying!

Re: Great title

Date: 2004-09-15 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I love that song. :)

Date: 2004-09-15 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I wish you and Christi a lot of luck and good times on this journey! Relationships are a lot of hard work and hopefully we will all do the right things. :)

(And don't worry - we're hardly ever stable. Why do you think I wanted to document it? *wink*)

Date: 2004-09-15 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I totally agree!

Date: 2004-09-15 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
VERY lucky.

Date: 2004-09-15 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kseptember44.livejournal.com
I am sorry, I always forget to sign in... I have to jump on and off the computer in between diaper changes etc... We met at the latetalkers LJ (Libra)remember me ?. From now on I will just sign "k" that will at least make me less of a mystery! But then again I kinda like being a mystery..hmmm. Its very..well mysterious. (as you can tell I have a very strange sense of humor) My journal is mostly private though I do post public at least once a week. I just had some crazy dude reading it. He freaked me out and that takes a lot to freak me out. So i do not post too much info about me. I mostly communicate via email. :0

Date: 2004-09-18 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Oh, hey there! Of course I remember you.

You are also a big silly. But if you would rather be a mystery I suppose I can do you the favor of respecting your wishes. :)

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