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Called the new day care to firm up some things since Punk starts there tomorrow morning. Found out that as I suspected, the new day care provides food. Score! That will save some time in the mornings since we won't have to pack lunch or snacks. (Oops, forgot to ask about breakfast.) However, the new day care will not take cloth diapers. Argh!

When I asked, she told me that cloth diapers are illegal in day care because they are "not sanitary". Which is completely and totally not true. I told her this. Told her that both home child cares AND center-based child cares in the area are taking cloth diapers, but have different policies about them (like the previously-mentioned poop issue); that it seems to be a provider issue. She still said she would not take them, but would "check into it."

Bollocks. I don't want to add freaking disgusting disposable diapers to our budget at all. Let alone use them.

Somehow cloth diapers are not sanitary, but throwing human waste into landfills is?

Date: 2008-09-02 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahaubry.livejournal.com
don't kill me, but I can see where she doesn't want to do CDing.....but that is so annoying for you.

ps-i heart you.

ps again - new pics in my blog from today :(

Date: 2008-09-02 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Honestly, I don't see it. It seriously doesn't involve anything that is not involved in disposable diapers except that instead of putting it in the trash after you roll it up and tab it closed, you put it in a bag that I provide. Seriously. Same freaking thing. Pop the diaper off, roll it up, tab it closed into a neat little package, put in bag. Heck, she can even leave the wipes and stuff inside, I don't care. :)

Date: 2008-09-02 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaleidoscopeeye.livejournal.com
So, the poop will stay in the diaper in your bag? You wouldn't want her to plop it off and clean it out a bit? If that is indeed the case, maybe you should clarify to her how you imagined it would work...as she might have a preconceived notion of what it would entail.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happy2beso.livejournal.com
At least it will only require doing the disposables for part of the time. It's not like you have to fully give up on cloth diapers. :)

Date: 2008-09-02 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Yeah, it just ends up being a super pain. If she is in day care almost all day Monday-Thursday, it doesn't make sense to put her in cloth at home Monday-Thursday because then the diapers will just sit in the pail until the weekend (read: get incredibly stinky). So we can cloth on Friday-Sunday, but boooooooo.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qmama44.livejournal.com
We got told this by a home daycare provider too (one of the ones we didn't go with...). Ugh. So annoying. This is what I was going to do: put her in disposables, wait a few weeks until I developed a rapport with the woman and then bring it up again and show her how easy/not an issue it is. FWIW, we use 7th gen overnight and get them quite a bit cheaper via amazon with a subscription...

Date: 2008-09-02 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
We tried 7th Gen overnight and got leaks. Punk is a super heavy wetter and leaks through well-stuffed cloth also. Right now the only things we don't get leaks on are Pampers Baby Dry and Pampers Cruisers Ultra Absorbency.

Whee!

Date: 2008-09-02 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starrchilde.livejournal.com
7th Gen leaked for us, but Earth's Best diapers are making me happy, so if worse comes to worse it might be worth looking into.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitsirk.livejournal.com
Try the CVS brand. I've used them since I gave up on cloth, and they rock. They go on sale every few weeks as well.

I bet she'd change her mind with a little demo.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexlezard.livejournal.com
Sucktastic.

I hope your day care provider comes around. I like the suggestion of bringing it up again in a few weeks.

Date: 2008-09-02 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skatured.livejournal.com
You know it's totally because she is afraid of them. I'll admit I was pretty apprehensive about the whole thing before I did it too, but not enough to flat out say no. I think a little demonstration is the best idea!

Date: 2008-09-02 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artemis44.livejournal.com
Agreed - I am pretty crunchy in lots of areas, but the cloth diaper thing was just WAY too scary for me - no matter how many other reasonable, "just-like-me-mamas" told me that it wasn't that bad and in some ways, easier than disposables. We only know what we know, and if all she knows is disposables, then I bet cloth diapers conjures up some pretty scary/smelly/nasty images...

revisiting it a month from now seems like a great idea, I think...

Date: 2008-09-02 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yupanotherjen.livejournal.com
Find the regs and show them to her. And also show her what you'd be sending. And even if she refuses, you CAN keep her in cloth 7 days a week at home. You'd still use cloth overnight, and I imagine you'd have at least one diaper before bed, so you could do two loads a week - a small one on Thursdays and a big one on Sundays.

We only wash Natalie's 2x a week right now because she only wears two diapers (nap & night) now, and they come out fine. Yes, the smell when you open the pail is pretty overwhelming towards the end, but the diapers wash out fine.

Date: 2008-09-02 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bafleyanne.livejournal.com
Do you think she'd be willing to compromise on something like GDiapers? They have a flushable inner part (so that part is disposable) and a reusable outer "pant". Way better than going totally to disposables.

http://www.gdiapers.com/

We used cloth and luckily the day care thing was never an issue for us. I did buy some all-in-one diapers to keep for babysitters, etc, and that would be another option you could try--I don't know what you usually use but that would be easier than dealing with prefolds or whatever.
Edited Date: 2008-09-02 03:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-09-02 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twomomsarebetterthanone.wordpress.com (from livejournal.com)
seriously lame that she won't use them. CDs are not as hard as people think. I didn't know how my SIL would handle them for the 4 hours per week that she watches Mr. E - and if SHE can do it and admit that 'it isn't all that bad', then ANYONE CAN! I would talk more to the DC provider and give her a demo. Maybe she has NO experience and is really just clueless.

Good luck. I'd really be pissed if I had to go to disposables.

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