On liking boys vs. liking girls
Apr. 6th, 2002 09:46 am[Note: A while back, I wrote a couple of journal entries about my last relationship and why it ended. It's been a long time, but it's time for another installation.]
I have been asked on more than one occasion by more than one person why I married a boy if I like girls. Well, the question (and its accompanying answer) is a little more complicated than that. While I was watching But I'm a Cheerleader last night, I was struck by how uncomfortable I get during sex scenes in mainstream movies (the sort of uncomfortable one would get when one's parent was watching along, I suppose, kind of), but not so during sex/love scenes involving two women (which I, instead, find captivating, exciting, comfortable). Perhaps this question deserves an answer.
Read on or not, the choice is yours.
When I was beginning my first year of college, I began the sort of self-exploration that late adolescents go through upon first leaving the home of origin. I was still dating the high school boyfriend (Don, who, since the 8th grade, had also been one of the best friends), though that was getting rocky as changes were being made. I had decided by then to abandon Catholicism in favor of Paganism. At about the same time, I remember having a conversation with Flea (another of the best friends); it was something along the lines of a confession that when Don was in Basic Training, I spent a lot of time on my friend Michelle's bed, cuddling with her. I remember asking him, "Do you think, you know, I /liked/ Michelle?" At the time I was doing it, though, I remember thinking that all straight girls must want to spoon their friends on their beds, because /I/ was a straight girl and I wanted to. (Oops.) Upon the Michelle realization (and the verbalizing of the enormous high school crush I'd had on Monique since 9th grade or so), I came out to myself as bisexual.
"I don't think I'll ever date girls, though," I told myself, "because I don't relate to them." This statement guided my dating life from that point on. It's not that I didn't /like/ girls - I mean, I had some female friends in high school - I just didn't understand them, didn't feel at home with them. Everything was a stretch, or a little forced, or weird. My first year of college, I met Jodie. Jodie ended up being the first girl that I have ever totally related to since Natalie in elementary school. Jodie and I became roommates, and she became the best friend. (You know, I think about all of the times I wanted to cuddle Jodie on her bed, too...)
But I thought that there was a dichotomy in me that would really screw with my dating life. By the time I was a junior in college (after being on the receiving end of a few girls' crushes and realizing I liked the idea), I had decided I was a cursed bisexual - I was much more physically attracted to women, but more emotionally attracted to men. I had a lot of female friends at Hofstra by this point, and I liked hanging out with them, but with the exception of Jodie, I didn't really relate to them. I always used to boggle at how she would seem to relate to Lia, Pam, Dom, Kelly, Melissa, etc.
I fell into a pattern of dating boys that I felt an emotional connection to, and would endure the physical aspect or avoid it all together. (I dated a lot of boys long distance, so I wouldn't see them much. I also entered long-term relationships where no sex happened.) In January of 1996, I made a New Year's Resolution to call a moratorium on dating boys until I could really say I couldn't relate to women emotionally. I decided that I just simply would not date boys for a while. If I met a woman to date, I would think about it, but as for boys, just friends. At this point, I told both of my parents that I liked girls, and my brother, who told me I didn't.
Less than three months later, I met A. (We had talked for a year or more online, but he and his roommate Jack convinced me to go visit.) He was cute, and I liked him, but I told him that I was only dating women. Of course, that didn't stop me from hooking up with him a little. ("Well, I'll kiss him, but I won't /date/ him...") We parted ways agreeing that a relationship was not for us. But I became attached to him emotionally, and eventually we fell into a path of dating that turned into love that turned into seriousness that turned into marriage.
Was I physically attracted to him? Well, yes, in some ways. He had boyishly good looks, a cute little face, brilliant blue eyes, and a bright smile. He was in good shape, and was hiking, kayaking, canoeing and stuff at the time. He looked foppish and young and vibrant.
I was uncomfortable with his naked body, and with the physical acts we would share, yes. I fell into the same pattern of enduring so I could get to the closeness and holding that I liked. I really /wanted/ to like it - I don't suppose unless you've ever tried to will yourself to be okay with something that you're not that you could understand. I liked it because it was close and intimate, and I wanted to be close and intimate with him. But the actual acts made me nervous, uncomfortable, awkward. This would develop into psychosomatic physical pain (which I only found out was psychosomatic recently).
If I'd given myself a chance in 1996, I would have found a woman I could relate to emotionally - I'm sure of it. I really hadn't given any of that a lot of opportunity. Most of my friends, especially my close friends, were male - so it wasn't like I had an overwhelming pool. And then I went and fell in love, and stopped looking. For the most part.
So there it is. And now I'm late for kickboxing.
I have been asked on more than one occasion by more than one person why I married a boy if I like girls. Well, the question (and its accompanying answer) is a little more complicated than that. While I was watching But I'm a Cheerleader last night, I was struck by how uncomfortable I get during sex scenes in mainstream movies (the sort of uncomfortable one would get when one's parent was watching along, I suppose, kind of), but not so during sex/love scenes involving two women (which I, instead, find captivating, exciting, comfortable). Perhaps this question deserves an answer.
Read on or not, the choice is yours.
When I was beginning my first year of college, I began the sort of self-exploration that late adolescents go through upon first leaving the home of origin. I was still dating the high school boyfriend (Don, who, since the 8th grade, had also been one of the best friends), though that was getting rocky as changes were being made. I had decided by then to abandon Catholicism in favor of Paganism. At about the same time, I remember having a conversation with Flea (another of the best friends); it was something along the lines of a confession that when Don was in Basic Training, I spent a lot of time on my friend Michelle's bed, cuddling with her. I remember asking him, "Do you think, you know, I /liked/ Michelle?" At the time I was doing it, though, I remember thinking that all straight girls must want to spoon their friends on their beds, because /I/ was a straight girl and I wanted to. (Oops.) Upon the Michelle realization (and the verbalizing of the enormous high school crush I'd had on Monique since 9th grade or so), I came out to myself as bisexual.
"I don't think I'll ever date girls, though," I told myself, "because I don't relate to them." This statement guided my dating life from that point on. It's not that I didn't /like/ girls - I mean, I had some female friends in high school - I just didn't understand them, didn't feel at home with them. Everything was a stretch, or a little forced, or weird. My first year of college, I met Jodie. Jodie ended up being the first girl that I have ever totally related to since Natalie in elementary school. Jodie and I became roommates, and she became the best friend. (You know, I think about all of the times I wanted to cuddle Jodie on her bed, too...)
But I thought that there was a dichotomy in me that would really screw with my dating life. By the time I was a junior in college (after being on the receiving end of a few girls' crushes and realizing I liked the idea), I had decided I was a cursed bisexual - I was much more physically attracted to women, but more emotionally attracted to men. I had a lot of female friends at Hofstra by this point, and I liked hanging out with them, but with the exception of Jodie, I didn't really relate to them. I always used to boggle at how she would seem to relate to Lia, Pam, Dom, Kelly, Melissa, etc.
I fell into a pattern of dating boys that I felt an emotional connection to, and would endure the physical aspect or avoid it all together. (I dated a lot of boys long distance, so I wouldn't see them much. I also entered long-term relationships where no sex happened.) In January of 1996, I made a New Year's Resolution to call a moratorium on dating boys until I could really say I couldn't relate to women emotionally. I decided that I just simply would not date boys for a while. If I met a woman to date, I would think about it, but as for boys, just friends. At this point, I told both of my parents that I liked girls, and my brother, who told me I didn't.
Less than three months later, I met A. (We had talked for a year or more online, but he and his roommate Jack convinced me to go visit.) He was cute, and I liked him, but I told him that I was only dating women. Of course, that didn't stop me from hooking up with him a little. ("Well, I'll kiss him, but I won't /date/ him...") We parted ways agreeing that a relationship was not for us. But I became attached to him emotionally, and eventually we fell into a path of dating that turned into love that turned into seriousness that turned into marriage.
Was I physically attracted to him? Well, yes, in some ways. He had boyishly good looks, a cute little face, brilliant blue eyes, and a bright smile. He was in good shape, and was hiking, kayaking, canoeing and stuff at the time. He looked foppish and young and vibrant.
I was uncomfortable with his naked body, and with the physical acts we would share, yes. I fell into the same pattern of enduring so I could get to the closeness and holding that I liked. I really /wanted/ to like it - I don't suppose unless you've ever tried to will yourself to be okay with something that you're not that you could understand. I liked it because it was close and intimate, and I wanted to be close and intimate with him. But the actual acts made me nervous, uncomfortable, awkward. This would develop into psychosomatic physical pain (which I only found out was psychosomatic recently).
If I'd given myself a chance in 1996, I would have found a woman I could relate to emotionally - I'm sure of it. I really hadn't given any of that a lot of opportunity. Most of my friends, especially my close friends, were male - so it wasn't like I had an overwhelming pool. And then I went and fell in love, and stopped looking. For the most part.
So there it is. And now I'm late for kickboxing.
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Date: 2002-04-06 07:17 am (UTC)That said, you now seem VERY happy and comfortable with who you are. Over the last few months that's one of the reasons that I'm so glad we've spent time together. Your genuine selfconfidence makes it easy for me to relax around you - and certainly that's something I've needed recently! Thanks.
See ya tonight!
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Date: 2002-04-06 08:43 am (UTC)I do believe that all things happen for reasons, and that there are always choices, always openings. I don't regret the time I spent with A., the things I learned along the way, or the way things ended up. I only regret getting legally married.
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Date: 2002-04-06 09:03 am (UTC)The timing of our colocation discovery was interesting, amazingly so in my case.
Regardless of what happens between
Wow, today is so serious.
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Date: 2002-04-06 10:58 am (UTC)I regret that I sold my principles out for someone else, and I have to live with that, and for taking part in such a sexist and heterosexist institution, for the rest of my life.
Aah well, choices.
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Date: 2002-04-06 08:43 am (UTC)Thanks for reading.
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Date: 2002-04-06 05:06 pm (UTC)Brain stew.
I can't wait for Orthodox Easter. :)
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Date: 2002-04-06 09:04 pm (UTC)your wonderful syllables.
thanks for coming back!
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Date: 2002-04-06 08:06 am (UTC)A lot of gay people are gay their entire lives but never allow themselve sto be gay, because of their presumtions, their upbringing, their sense of what is right for self....
You my dear were very young when big life decisions were in your face....and you made the best choices you had at the time....and as life changed so did you and so did those choices.....
I like the choices you are making now...for many obvious reasons...but the biggest reason is, and will always be the most important, is that you are making choices now that make you happy and leave you comfortable....and make you smile...
I am just really lucky that these choices involve me......and I always want you to be happy first and foremost, even if future choices do not involve me...I'm honest enough to admit that the thought of that occuring sucks....but I made a promise to you, when I realized that I loved you.....silently until that day on cold cold beach, but binding still.....that your happiness, my friend, is so very important to me...and I would be willing to work through whatever as long as you could be happy....you deserve to be happy....I do too....
In the meantime I hope we continue to grow in our choices toegtehr.....because....well...I am rather fond of you!;)
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Date: 2002-04-06 01:23 pm (UTC)I'm so glad she's as wonderful as you are.
Awwwwh.
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Date: 2002-04-06 08:48 am (UTC)Yes, I was young when certain life decisions were in front of me, but I fully admit that I put myself in those situations. I was chasing windmills, and there were so many factors involved in that quest that trying to tease out specific reasons ends up making everything look two-dimensional and shallow.
In combination, though, everything fits into place, is whole, makes sense. Unfortunately, I've never been able to verbalize this three-dimensional picture of what happened.
Thank you for your endless, supportive friendship. Out of everything that we share (and all of it is wonderful), that is most important to me, and I would sacrifice the rest to save it.
I just would really like if I never had to make that choice. :) While I would do nearly anything for your happiness, I'd like to keep working on ours.
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Date: 2002-04-06 09:56 am (UTC)I just don't believe that we will ever force ourselves or each otehr into something like that. We talk about everything.
That is an important and integral part of our relationship...and of our own personal MO's.
And I agree....I want to work on ours..because well...Ours makes you and me happy and that's the number one thing on my list of priorities these days!:)
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Date: 2002-04-06 02:09 pm (UTC)And not four years later.
Trust is good. The trust I have in you is stunning.
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Date: 2002-04-06 12:13 pm (UTC)Joking. :)
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From:33 comments on this topic, is there anything left to say?
Date: 2002-04-08 10:47 am (UTC)Re: 33 comments on this topic, is there anything left to say?
Date: 2002-04-08 05:15 pm (UTC)Nice to meetcha, and all of that. And remember, with a name like 'smurfchick,' it's gotta be good.
Are you still with the "hus"? Am I being nosey?
Cuuuuuuurious.
ha, ha, ha!
Date: 2002-04-09 02:03 am (UTC)Re: ha, ha, ha!
I will share THE FUNNY with you!
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Date: 2002-04-09 10:23 pm (UTC)Re: ha, ha, ha!
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