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Tonight I went to see a movie called Trembling Before G-d with Lara and Steve. It was a documentary about various people who are struggling with being both Hasidic or Orthodox Jews and also homosexuals. It was about the need to hide or fear being ostracized. It was a movie that made me think.

I take an awful lot for granted sometimes. I live in comfort and stability within my spiritual community and my faith, and I don't usually think about it. As a Unitarian Universalist, being queer is never an issue. Heck, neither is anything else, really. That's one of the perks! But then I got to thinking about how for orthodox and hasidic jews, religious services are only a small piece of the picture. There is an entire community, an entire lifestyle, and an entire support system that is in danger of being pulled out from under someone for admitting and/or acting on queerness.

I think of the man who snapped a rubber band on his wrist to try to condition away same-sex desires. I think of the woman with the husband, the woman who asked for a platonic relationship and was denied it. I think of the woman who cries because her father, the rabbi, calls her only because he feels it is his duty to do so. I think of the young man sent to Israel because "there are not gay people there." I think of the respected rabbi who says that he will hold the hand of his struggling gay Jewish brothers, "but only figuratively."

There was a shot of a woman standing outside of a fence. Inside the fence was a small carnival or street festival, and lots of families were playing within. Children were riding amusement rides and playing Whack-a-Mole, people had cotton candy, everyone was having a good time. She was standing outside the fence. She didn't belong. She was afraid to step inside. I felt so strongly for her.

I have lost nothing - not my family, not my friends, not my support system, not my faith, not my Higher Power, not my community, not my job - nothing. I have a comfort and a stability in my life that some of these people will never know. These people, they struggle with heartache every day, struggle with why G-d would give them a soul that was tainted, that they should bear a constant struggle. I realize that persevering through struggle is synonymous with Judaism in some ways, but why would G-d give this struggle to only some people? It's almost like it is equated with a disability or a terminal illness. (G-d gave mother cancer, father heart disease, brother scoliosis, and sister lesbianism?)

To hear the woman's father halfhearted wish her a "good shabbos," to hear the older man's father give excuses why he's too busy to see his son after 20 years - that was difficult. But to see that woman, and that man, in the arms of their partners, having their struggles understood and supported, well, that just gives me hope.

Summary: Trembling Before G-d - Sobering. I am very fortunate indeed.

Date: 2002-05-12 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drainbead.livejournal.com
Do you go to the UU church in north Clintonville? Brian and I go occasionally, but we haven't been for quite some time.

Date: 2002-05-12 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I do, on-again off-again. For a while, I was going away or having house guests every weekend, and then I just sort of lapsed off. I try to go at least once a month, though.

Date: 2002-05-13 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qaphsiel.livejournal.com
Oddly, I'd never heard of the UU. Or if I did I killed that memory with alcohol or something.

Anyhow, I just started poking around on their official site (go Google! It's better than doing a post mortem on a rhinoceros any day.)

Date: 2002-05-13 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Are you looking at the site for the UU Association (www.uua.org) or for First UU Columbus itself? Curious. :)

Date: 2002-05-13 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qaphsiel.livejournal.com
The former.

Date: 2002-05-13 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doulamel.livejournal.com
I wish I'd known about that. I'd be very curious to see it and see how things REALLY are. In Philadelphia there's a synagogue with a female rabbi and they're very open to homosexuals, so I was always under the opinion (falsely I've always assumed but had no proof otherwise) that the Jewish religion wasn't quite as "anti" as Christian religions. *shrugs*

Date: 2002-05-13 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I don't know enough about Judaism to really offer any sort of comparison, but I would imagine that some Reformed synagogues are very cool.

From my understanding, ultra-orthodox Jews believe in the Torah the same way fundamentalist Christians read the Bible, which is to say that each word should be taken literally (for the most part). So I can imagine it would be very difficult to rectify homosexuality, especially for men, what with Leviticus and all.

Date: 2002-05-14 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carina-s.livejournal.com
I'm glad my mother is not an orthodox jew. Otherwise she'd have to unlock the door to my apartment figuratively.

Date: 2002-05-14 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firenze41.livejournal.com
I love your icon!!! }:-)

Date: 2002-05-14 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Stank you very much! :)

Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-15 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
the problem is that most religions are found on texts that have been polluted and twisted over time to serve the needs of the powers that be. It's not a big leap of the imagination to assume a book that's over 2000 years old has been edited just a little. To take it word for word, is fool hearty at best. There is an interesting artical floating around by a researcher who is looking at the Karma surta, and discovering most of it was mistranslated to be more sexist then it was.
I feel bad for people who have been cut out of a religion based on words on a page. I feel bad for people who have tortured themselves mentally and physically for words on a page. I feel bad for those who have been slaughtered/tortured/killed, based on words on a page. God didn't write the bible (even the bible doesn't claim that)...it was dictated at best...turned into a screenplay at worse.

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-16 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
God didn't write the bible (even the bible doesn't claim that)...it was dictated at best...turned into a screenplay at worse.

While I agree that the Bible (and other religious texts) should not be taken at face value, there /is/ Biblical reason to think one should. The opening words of the book of John say something like, "Before, there was the Word, and the Word was God," or something like that. It seems to be talking both about the birth of Jesus (the "Word made Flesh") and the Gospels themselves.

Still, I agree with you.

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-16 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
"Before, there was the Word, and the Word was God"

Still doesn't say god wrote the bible, it says that God spoke to *someone* or *everyone*, but then others put it to paper and hence the chaos began. No translation is 100% pure to source, the act of translating by it's very nature, changes the material. If someone wanted to get REALLY technical, then the word should have never been translated.

I try very hard to keep an open mind when it comes to religion...but I believe in concepts, not doctrine.



Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-16 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
No, you're right, it doesn't say God wrote the Bible. But then again, I'm hardly the person to be arguing this side, since I'm not Christian. Oops. :)

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-16 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
Neither am I....or am I...hard to tell these days....I still cry out to god at certain moments. What does that make me? ;)

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-16 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Depends which "god" you cry out to, right? :)

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-16 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
Maybe, maybe not...who knows. I sure as hell don't. Somedays I like to believe in santa, some days I don't.....all depends on if your talking to the artist or the tech.

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-16 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I think you should worship me.

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-16 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
My Dental Plan:

Brush.
Floss.
See your dentist regularly.

(It's a great plan!)

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-17 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
Hmm, I was thinking more of a "post-cavity" sort of plan ;) I'm sorry, your just not what I'm looking for in a higher being, but I'll be sure to keep your resume on file should the position become available again.

Re: Ultimately

Date: 2002-05-17 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
We got an opening for "devil" though...basically it involves doing all the fun stuff (and people). Better pay, worse hours, harsh working conditions.....(AC busted in that part of the building)

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