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I could get used to having a sugar momma. My lovely Diana treated me to dinner at The Melting Pot (everything from wine to cheese fondue to entree fondue to chocolate fondue) and then a movie. If I'm not careful, she might start expecting me to put out. ;)

A. came back to the apartment tonight while I was out. He took the rest of his things that he wanted, but left some of his stuff, presumably stuff he didn't want. I emailed him immediately on return (he returned his key, so I assumed he had no intentions of coming back) to let him know that if he didn't want this stuff, I wasn't going to throw it all away for him, and that he should arrange with me a time to come and clean out the apartment. There is no way in hell I'm going to go through this apartment tossing stuff he doesn't want and cleaning everything out just because he vacuumed his carpet.

At times like this, times when I stick up for myself and put my foot down, I berate myself for being such a bitch. I think it sucks that society teaches girls that they are bitchy if they don't allow themselves to be walked on. I think it sucks that I should be compliant and docile or else I wonder if I'm a bad person. I think it sucks that even though I know better, I still feel guilty. Why /shouldn't/ I expect him to throw out the things he doesn't want? Why is it fair in his mind that he only has to move out the things he wants and I should be burdened with tossing things? I didn't leave all of the things I didn't want in his bedroom - I took them to Carina's yard sale and then to the Goodwill receptacle. Is it wrong of me to expect that if he doesn't want the gifts I or my family has given him, he should dispose of them himself? And then there's the stuff that was always his to begin with - what am I going to do with a He-Man lunchbox full of his old baseball cards?

It's frustrating and maddening. Especially because I still feel like a total bitch.

Date: 2002-06-19 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-iboy367.livejournal.com
Hold up a sec...

I forgot who it was that defined feminism as "the radical notion that women are people." It's a notion I happen to agree with. :)

But, if that's so... doesn't it follow that calling someone (yourself included!) "bitch" encompasses a radical rejection of the notion that women, being people, sometimes get annoyed by the less glamorous vagaries of life? And that, thus, they lash out in a self-protecting and self-reaffirming way?

And yet, there is no similar word for application to the male gender. Asshole? Thanks to Mr. Leary, it has more connotations of thoughtless evildom. Jerk et al. imply mere weakness, either of strength or intellect, or more likely, both.

I had a point to posting all this-- really I did! :) Perhaps a query about why this word is still in our lexicon?

Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 03:58 am (UTC)
ext_14648: (genderbender)
From: [identity profile] saldemonium.livejournal.com
You mean why we still use the word bitch? Because bitch is not a nasty word. My 8-year-old talks about our bitch, and his nana's bitch all the time. I often refer to my dog as a bitch. I tell her she's a silly bitch, in fact. (Or a stupid bitch, if I’m annoyed.) My son got in trouble for using the word bitch at school, in reference to his nana’s dog, which had just had pups. I was down at the school the next day to make them apologize to him for it. Bitch is not a bad word.

It can be used as such, though. Calling a woman a bitch does have a rather different meaning. However, the word itself is still not at fault.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
*Dick*
Dick is the male eqv of *bitch*. You call tell a guy he's being a Dick, cause well he's being a dick. It's the same slap, backhand as bitch. There are far worse words to use, that cause far more damage. Personally I'm of the belief words only have power if you let them. I think the militant feminst movement has hurt its cause by battling again "words", as it gives the words power. Most movements in general tend to focus in on the wrong issues, in my opinion. I think women would be better off striving for what's "fair" as opposed to what's "equal". There is no such thing as equal and it's not right to force either side to conform to a pre-pressed mold.


And what to do with all that crap....lug it to your local geek store and hawk it! The lunchbox is probably more valuable then the cards mind you.


Am I a sexist pig?
I hold the door open for everyone.
I don't believe that violence is the right course of action ever.
I believe in buying my date dinner/presents.
I think it's a woman's right to choose what happens within and to her body.
I like porno, the nastier the better.
I think anyone should be able to stay at home with the kids...as long as someone does.
I'll fixate on a woman's breast/legs/ass first, but a beautiful pair of eyes will keep me entraced forever.
I don't believe in mixing sexes in the military, but I do believe women should be allowed to fight.
I believe that it's the job of every man to be able to do the basics of three of the following 4 items: Plumbing, electrical, auto repair, wood working.
I also believe a man should be able to do one of the following two items: Cook, Sew.
I believe that women can be as good (or as crappy) a boss as any man.
I believe that men and woman are different and measuring them on the same scale is wrong.






Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarnaddict.livejournal.com
I hold the door open for everyone.
Right on, so do I. =)

I think it's a woman's right to choose what happens within and to her body.
Yup.

I'll fixate on a woman's breast/legs/ass first, but a beautiful pair of eyes will keep me entraced forever.
I'm an eyes person, too, for both men and women.

I don't believe in mixing sexes in the military, but I do believe women should be allowed to fight.
That's an interesting solution, that I think I might have to agree with.

I believe that it's the job of every man to be able to do the basics of three of the following 4 items: Plumbing, electrical, auto repair, wood working.
I think women should know these things too. =) Now, I /don't/, not
really, but my dad is the original handyman, and when I need help
getting something installed/fixed/etc. around the house, if he helps,
he shows me how to do it.

I believe that men and woman are different and measuring them on the same scale is wrong.
ABSOLUTELY!

I don't want equality with men. I want equivalence. I want to be judged fairly. I don't want to be expected to do the same things a man does - and a man shouldn't be expected to do the same things I do. He can't have babies, I can't pee standing up (without making a mess). But I should never be told that I can't do something because I'm a woman, if that something has nothing to do with the physical aspects of being female. Sure, there are things that a man is going to be able to do more easily than me, simply because of physical differences. That works both ways. The sexes are not equal. But.

But.

Neither is one better than the other. Different does NOT mean less than.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
To true, however we are taught being different must mean being superior in some way. I don't agree with that statement, but I see how easy it is to break things down that way. It's all about the ego after all.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I don't know if everyone is taught that different = superior, but I know a lot of people are. For instance, almost all scientific research done on "how men and women are different" almost always purport to discern how male parts are superior to female parts. It's like we need to prove that the brains are different (shape-wise, size-wise, etc) to prove that men are smarter, or some crap like that.

Similarly, equal doesn't necessarily have to mean "the same," either... but you want to avoid the notion of "separate but equal," as that was the basis for racial segregation.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
Personally, I think we need to hit the reset button and reload our game, cause this one is fudged.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Does that mean I'd have to reset my existence? I'm not sure I want to do that. :)

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
Just a bit of a redo. ;)

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I think anyone should be able to stay at home with the kids...as long as someone does.

How does this work in a single parent household?

I believe that it's the job of every man to be able to do the basics of three of the following 4 items: Plumbing, electrical, auto repair, wood working. I also believe a man should be able to do one of the following two items: Cook, Sew.

I think that everyone should know how to do most of those things. I firmly believe that every person should know how to drive a car, perform minor automotive maintenance (like changing a tire, fuses, etc.), fix a clogged drain or a stopped toilet, use basic tools, make enough food to live, and sew a button. Anything else is just asking for trouble and dependent living.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
I'm not going to get into my beliefs fully on single parents. But I will say a mom, or father, going at it completely alone (without family as well), will ultimately do more harm them good. Will they be ragaging psychos? No, but they will be missing a component that the rest of us take for granted.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-20 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I had typed this whole rant about the US welfare system and stay-at-home parenting, but when I was about to post it, my Internet Explorer froze.

I'm going to take that as a sign. *HUG*

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-20 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
I grew up around a lot of /poor/ kids...who had babies as freaken source of income (I'm a canuck)...and the system was setup in such a way, that they made more money as breeders, then if they would go out and get work. I know more then one kid raised by his/her grandmother. As chris rock said, if the kid grows up calling nanna, mom and momma, Pam, he's going to jail.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-20 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
As chris rock said, if the kid grows up calling nanna, mom and momma, Pam, he's going to jail.

Oh, I dunno. I went to college with a dude who was raised by his grandparents, and he's just the nicest dude ever.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-20 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockwerkdragon.livejournal.com
But did he call his mom by her first name and not know she's was "mom" till he got older?

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-20 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
He always knew that biologically, she was his mother, but they were raised (along with his uncle) more like brothers and sisters. He called his mother by her first name.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Wow - that's really interesting about Peter.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 01:33 pm (UTC)
ext_14648: (aurora)
From: [identity profile] saldemonium.livejournal.com
His nana breeds shepherds, so he's heard the word bitch in it's proper meaning all his life. And I never saw the word as bad, so I never stopped him from saying it. :)

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
He seems like a really great kid. :) With a great mom.

Re: Bitch?

Date: 2002-06-19 04:23 pm (UTC)
ext_14648: (Default)
From: [identity profile] saldemonium.livejournal.com
*grins* Aww, thanks, sweet! =)

Date: 2002-06-19 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I think this: doesn't it follow that calling someone (yourself included!) "bitch" encompasses a radical rejection of the notion that women, being people, sometimes get annoyed by the less glamorous vagaries of life? is a lot like what I'm saying here: I think it sucks that society teaches girls that they are bitchy if they don't allow themselves to be walked on. I'm just not as verbally competent late at night.

I find it disgusting that to this day, girls are still taught to be docile and subservient. The "boys will be boys" attitude that is prevalent whenever males are louder, brasher, and more forceful continues to exist and thus continues to be detrimental to women and girls.

And you're right, there doesn't seem to be a male equivalent of "bitch." Someone suggested "dick," but I'm not so sure.

Date: 2002-06-21 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliann.livejournal.com
Among my circle of friends we call the guys "bitch" too ;)

You were supposed to be saving yourself Melting Pot for me! Remember we're so there Tuesday night, you promised, hot mama!

Date: 2002-06-21 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Yes, I know, I know, we will go there on Tuesday. :) I have not forgotten you, my love. Di wanted to go there, too, and I didn't think you'd all want to go together.

Date: 2002-06-21 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliann.livejournal.com
Yah know everyone keeps saying this. I don't have anything against her, except that I'd really really like to know why she has not been talking to me for over a year.

Date: 2002-06-21 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
You see, I don't think that's a conversation I want to be involved in, especially on my little vacation. :)

Date: 2002-06-19 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigmeanie.livejournal.com
I realize that this isn't the point (and it goes against your point), but..

If you've got a He-Man lunchbox full of baseball cards, take 'em to a collectibles shop instead of throwing them away. You might get some good $$$ for 'em (the lunchbox AND the cards), depending on what they are, what condition they're in, etc. (I mention this only after hearing umpteen million stories from my father about his baseball card collection that his mom threw away.)

And then use the $$$ for yourself. :D And send A. a thank-you note. :D :D

Date: 2002-06-19 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prunesnprisms.livejournal.com
SHE read my mind and I think you should do it, too.

Date: 2002-06-19 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 00solstice.livejournal.com
There is a collectables shop right around the corner from where I live (between W.D.Grinders and Cup of Joe).

Re:

Date: 2002-06-19 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Ooh, thanks! Maybe tomorrow after lunch you can show me where? Can we go to Grinders for lunch? I totally dig them. :)

Date: 2002-06-19 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I think I will try to take the lunch box to the collectibles store that my friend Steve suggested. I don't really have time to do Ebay stuff right now because of moving.

But thanks for the suggestion!

Date: 2002-06-19 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigmeanie.livejournal.com
Not eBay. A reputable baseball card collector's shop. You know, a store with actual people. :D

Date: 2002-06-19 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
*gasp* Actual people??!?!

Date: 2002-06-19 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whod81.livejournal.com
but jude.

women are born bitches.

ACCEPT IT!

or not.

Date: 2002-06-19 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Of course.

Date: 2002-06-19 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayna.livejournal.com
Sell 'em on Ebay. I betcha that that he-man lunchbox will fetch a pretty penny, especially if it's the metal kind. He may or may not have any baseball cards worth anything but those are worth a shot too. Let me know if you want to borrow a digital camera. :-)

Date: 2002-06-19 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
It's plastic, not metal, so it won't be worth as much, but it's worth a shot. I'm going to take it to the collectibles store that Steve suggested and see what they'll offer me.

Thanks!

darn!

Date: 2002-06-19 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imagine77.livejournal.com
they beat me to it.
I was gonna say send the lunchbox to ME.
I have quite the collection of lunchboxes, mostly 80's themed.
;-)
You -should- try to sell them.
Good luck :-)

Re: darn!

Date: 2002-06-19 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Do you want it, Imagy? If you do, I'll bring it home with me over the 4th of July, and will trade it for a ride to or from Boston. :)

I'd rather give it to someone who wants it that I care about then sell it to some weirdo.

MWAH

Date: 2002-06-20 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imagine77.livejournal.com
How sweet are you?
I would probably love it, but if you can get real money for it you should try, especially as I can offer no currency by way of driving as I don't have a liscence :-(.
But thank you very muchly darlin.

Re: MWAH

Date: 2002-06-20 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
You can have it anyway. I didn't bring it to the collectibles store. :)

Re: darn!

Date: 2002-06-20 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imagine77.livejournal.com
teehee
i somehow didnt see that second part when I read your comment the first time.
wierdos you care about are preferable to strange ones ;-)
even if they don't drive.

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