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Okay, yeah. Definitely moving to Massachusetts, I think.

p.s. Quit saying "gay marriage," willya?
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Date: 2003-11-18 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hope-persists.livejournal.com
*cough*Northampton</big*cough*

Date: 2003-11-18 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wudles.livejournal.com
Marriage should be happy shouldn't it? ;)

Date: 2003-11-18 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
(I won't mention that The Girl and I have been casually perusing western MA real estate for the past several weeks.)

Date: 2003-11-18 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
HA! Yes.

Date: 2003-11-18 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hope-persists.livejournal.com
OMG! ahhhhhhhhhhh. ok, breathe, breathe. lol

what i really meant by all that was that if there is anywhere youd like me to scope out for you or such, or if you gals need a couch to crash on while scoping things out, i am happy to help. Also, if you are looking at rental stuff, here are the best sites:
http://www.gazettenet.com/classifieds/index.cfm
http://masslive.com/
and this one can help with a bunch of things: http://www.noho.com/

Date: 2003-11-18 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Oh no, baby doll, we were looking at HOUSES, so we could be BIG GROWN UPS.

(Because she tells me she won't get me a baby until I get her a house.)

p.s. This wouldn't be for another year at the earliest, barring bizarre circumstances.

Date: 2003-11-18 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hope-persists.livejournal.com
haha grownups. babies and houses oh my :D My offer still resides for the use of my futon though, if y'all would like to meet with realtors and such. Sorry to be such an excitable dork. You just seem so way cool in LJ and I get so excited about meeting new people that I sorta know (ya know?) and especially cool ass people moving to Noho :D

Date: 2003-11-18 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_epiphany_girl_/
Woohoo! Gay marriage. I like the sound of it. I don't care what you say. :)

(ps. I'm being silly. I get what you're saying.) :)

Date: 2003-11-18 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
People mahwidge! :D

Date: 2003-11-18 10:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] oddharmonic.livejournal.com
I like "free marriage" myself.

Himself has a strange aversion to New England in general so I haven't convinced him to go home-home with me. If he keeps stalling he's going to miss all the older relatives. And I won't take him to the LL Bean outlet with me when we go up the coast to visit the cousins and my grandmother's final resting place. (I guess the latter's actually okay, since I expect her to lecture me from beyond the grave. Loudly.)

Date: 2003-11-19 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmoe.livejournal.com
Homosexual union?
Lesbian legal link?
Same-sex symbiosis?
Alliterative allusions to euphemistic emphasis on the blatantly obvious? I kid. Partially because of the smirk seemingly inherent in your p.s., and partially because if I didn't kid you'd think I was losing my touch. And finally, partially because I know what it's like to love someone enough to move with them to a new place.

I've never met her, but I love her because she makes you happy. I've never actually /met/ you either, but I love you because you complement so many of my ideas about the way the world works and the way people should be. Go. Be. And just once, if you do go to Massachusetts, go and watch the moon reflect off the ocean. Trust me. It's worth it.

Date: 2003-11-19 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Let me clarify:

I don't like the term "gay marriage" for one of the reasons you mentioned up there (I find the word "gay" exclusive. My beloved disagrees. We go on.) but also because saying there's such a thing as "gay marriage" means that there's such a thing as "straight marriage" and that, by default, "gay marriage" is different.

Marriage is marriage. We're talking about legal commitment and the acquisition of rights. There's nothing separate about it.

(p.s. What you say to me, as always, is sweet. I honor your words and the person who wrote them. You're in my thoughts.)

Date: 2003-11-19 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Admittedly, I'd love to live in a warmer place, but we were mulling over going back to New England for a while now to be closer to family. It seems like that's what we'll end up doing. All roads, like family, coolness, social work licensure, and now marriage, seem to be leading to Massachusetts.

I just plain prefer the term "marriage" myself. Or "marriage equality," I suppose, like they were using at a meeting I was at yesterday.

Date: 2003-11-19 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Mahwidge! And wove! Twue wove!

Date: 2003-11-19 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
You don't have to care what I say, neener! :P

Date: 2003-11-19 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Someday, my darlin', we might take you up on that futon offer.

p.s. I think you're pretty cool yo'self. I'm always hounding Jen... "an' then we could go see Alix Olson with pifflegrrl 'cause she seems to have the hookups..." (Can you hear her eyes rolling?)

Date: 2003-11-19 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mermil.livejournal.com
Yay! Jude and Jen in my lovely home state! Now, if I could just get MYSELF and the boy to move there, we'd really have something...

I never!

Date: 2003-11-19 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kjtoo.livejournal.com
I didn't say "gay marriage!"

Ack, now I did! You made me say it!

"... to join Princess Vespa and Prince Vallium in the bonds of holy MOLY!"

Date: 2003-11-19 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hope-persists.livejournal.com
haha awesome. Yeah, I've just always had the feeling that we would get on splendidly in person.

Date: 2003-11-19 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kjtoo.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, "gay marriage" is different. For now. The fact that marriages between homosexual couples are largely prohibited makes it different, whether one likes it or not.

I hope that someday we can say "marriage" without having to qualify it, but at present that simply isn't possible. You have to draw attention to the fact that the current definition of "marriage" is not fair and equal, otherwise people aren't going to be inclined to redefine it. If you don't say "gay," (or "homosexual" or what have you), you diminish the existence of the inequality and in failing to acknowledge it you cease to be an agent of change.

Date: 2003-11-19 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadefu.livejournal.com
Masslive is notoriously outdated, btw. (A coworker is a former employee who worked in that department.)

You're better off with Gazettenet, or using MLS to find houses in the area. My boss' wife works with a real estate agent that sells and rents houses in mostly the Hampshire county area, so give me a yell if you need her to track something down.

And there's not a lot of western MA jobs listed here, but the ones that are you'd probably really like: www.idealist.com (keep your eye on it)

I see LOTS of job postings for social worker type jobs, though. The big question is what does Jen want to do? (I bet anything's better than that current pit.)

my bad...

Date: 2003-11-19 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadefu.livejournal.com
oops! I meant www.idealist.org for jobs, sorry!

Date: 2003-11-19 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] volumeat11.livejournal.com
Wow... What can I sy that hasn't been said... I'm sure I can think of a thing or two...

A Thing: Nice. I've got me a Powerball itchin'.

Or Two: Law won't take effect until May 2004. The "Supreme" Court gave the pork-rustlers 6 months to figure out "a process." The pork-rustlers said they can't get it done in that time. So I'll help you move in next summer.

Lemme know about mortgages, if you and Wicked Cool Chick decide to take that route. And I like the vagueness about "Western MA," because to most Mass folk, anything west of 495 is "Western MA."

You rock. You two rock. Enough said.

302.9

Date: 2003-11-19 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoic2them.livejournal.com
hell yeah it's different. it's not something automatic, marriage is not something handed to queers on a platter like it is for heteros. there's actual effort involved. there's no script for queers that says, "you're born, you marry someone, you spawn, you die." we have to think and make our own script, without the same easy out granted to heteros. not that i'm a fan, assimilation is not for me. but i guess the option should be there.

and i'm such a word snot, you know that the word homosexual is totally antiquated and mired in oppressive roots, right? historically, it's been the one used to oppress and categorize queers as a clinically disordered other. as in the dsm iii. but also in life, i mean, it's in the same ballpark as negro or oriental. just words that make you cringe and think you've somehow landed in 1948. this, without getting into the masculine generic "gay" that even queers seem to embrace with open arms, not caring that it's pretty explicitly male.

Date: 2003-11-19 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
Dat bwessed awwangement! Dat dweem, wivvin a dweem!
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