what i really meant by all that was that if there is anywhere youd like me to scope out for you or such, or if you gals need a couch to crash on while scoping things out, i am happy to help. Also, if you are looking at rental stuff, here are the best sites: http://www.gazettenet.com/classifieds/index.cfm http://masslive.com/ and this one can help with a bunch of things: http://www.noho.com/
Himself has a strange aversion to New England in general so I haven't convinced him to go home-home with me. If he keeps stalling he's going to miss all the older relatives. And I won't take him to the LL Bean outlet with me when we go up the coast to visit the cousins and my grandmother's final resting place. (I guess the latter's actually okay, since I expect her to lecture me from beyond the grave. Loudly.)
Admittedly, I'd love to live in a warmer place, but we were mulling over going back to New England for a while now to be closer to family. It seems like that's what we'll end up doing. All roads, like family, coolness, social work licensure, and now marriage, seem to be leading to Massachusetts.
I just plain prefer the term "marriage" myself. Or "marriage equality," I suppose, like they were using at a meeting I was at yesterday.
Homosexual union? Lesbian legal link? Same-sex symbiosis? Alliterative allusions to euphemistic emphasis on the blatantly obvious? I kid. Partially because of the smirk seemingly inherent in your p.s., and partially because if I didn't kid you'd think I was losing my touch. And finally, partially because I know what it's like to love someone enough to move with them to a new place.
I've never met her, but I love her because she makes you happy. I've never actually /met/ you either, but I love you because you complement so many of my ideas about the way the world works and the way people should be. Go. Be. And just once, if you do go to Massachusetts, go and watch the moon reflect off the ocean. Trust me. It's worth it.
I don't like the term "gay marriage" for one of the reasons you mentioned up there (I find the word "gay" exclusive. My beloved disagrees. We go on.) but also because saying there's such a thing as "gay marriage" means that there's such a thing as "straight marriage" and that, by default, "gay marriage" is different.
Marriage is marriage. We're talking about legal commitment and the acquisition of rights. There's nothing separate about it.
(p.s. What you say to me, as always, is sweet. I honor your words and the person who wrote them. You're in my thoughts.)
Wow... What can I sy that hasn't been said... I'm sure I can think of a thing or two...
A Thing: Nice. I've got me a Powerball itchin'.
Or Two: Law won't take effect until May 2004. The "Supreme" Court gave the pork-rustlers 6 months to figure out "a process." The pork-rustlers said they can't get it done in that time. So I'll help you move in next summer.
Lemme know about mortgages, if you and Wicked Cool Chick decide to take that route. And I like the vagueness about "Western MA," because to most Mass folk, anything west of 495 is "Western MA."
We could play Powerball ALL THE TIME! (And still not win. Drat!)
Re: May 2004 - Well, it's not like we can move anywhere TOMORROW. ;) We wouldn't be moving until at least next fall anyway, barring random unforeseen circumstances.
But 'gay marriage' is so much more exciting and FUN than dull boring straight marriage (was that all redundant? o_O)
I think all the other states are gonna have to enact this as well, if only because Mass is gonna get pissed at the massive influx into their damned small state! X D
When I think of marriage in today's society, all I see is another example of the american consumer mentality. Marriage is packaged for your convenience. It seems to lack any meaning to me, when it is so easily tossed aside by so many people. Perhaps an alternate word should be found and used. My current favorite is forming a "bond". It is short and easy to say, but has the sound of permanence about it.
In spirit, I agree with you. I tend to think that it's sort of contradictory that a way to show how much you trust a partner is to bind him/her in a legal contract. How does that make sense?
On the other hand, while I don't necessarily agree in "the institution of marriage" (whatever THAT means), I agree with the rights, benefits, privileges, and responsibilities that come with that term.
How long did "mixed marriages" get called such before they evolved into just marriages? I'd think the key would be acceptance as a marriage, and the adjective tag just denotes a subset.
(I started to play on the "mixed marriage" term and suggest the name "matched marriage," but if you think about the wording, any marriage should be a matched marriage; otherwise, the two unmatched people ought not be marrying.
I'm sure there are still people who use the term "mixed marriages." That doesn't make it acceptible to me.
But yes, if civil marriage equality was actually granted, I would probably let the term "gay marriage" annoy me. (And still try to get people to stop, but be pleased with small steps.)
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Date: 2003-11-18 09:14 pm (UTC)what i really meant by all that was that if there is anywhere youd like me to scope out for you or such, or if you gals need a couch to crash on while scoping things out, i am happy to help. Also, if you are looking at rental stuff, here are the best sites:
http://www.gazettenet.com/classifieds/index.cfm
http://masslive.com/
and this one can help with a bunch of things: http://www.noho.com/
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Date: 2003-11-18 09:26 pm (UTC)(ps. I'm being silly. I get what you're saying.) :)
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Date: 2003-11-18 10:55 pm (UTC)Himself has a strange aversion to New England in general so I haven't convinced him to go home-home with me. If he keeps stalling he's going to miss all the older relatives. And I won't take him to the LL Bean outlet with me when we go up the coast to visit the cousins and my grandmother's final resting place. (I guess the latter's actually okay, since I expect her to lecture me from beyond the grave. Loudly.)
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Date: 2003-11-19 04:51 am (UTC)I just plain prefer the term "marriage" myself. Or "marriage equality," I suppose, like they were using at a meeting I was at yesterday.
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Date: 2003-11-19 12:40 am (UTC)Lesbian legal link?
Same-sex symbiosis?
Alliterative allusions to euphemistic emphasis on the blatantly obvious? I kid. Partially because of the smirk seemingly inherent in your p.s., and partially because if I didn't kid you'd think I was losing my touch. And finally, partially because I know what it's like to love someone enough to move with them to a new place.
I've never met her, but I love her because she makes you happy. I've never actually /met/ you either, but I love you because you complement so many of my ideas about the way the world works and the way people should be. Go. Be. And just once, if you do go to Massachusetts, go and watch the moon reflect off the ocean. Trust me. It's worth it.
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Date: 2003-11-19 04:49 am (UTC)I don't like the term "gay marriage" for one of the reasons you mentioned up there (I find the word "gay" exclusive. My beloved disagrees. We go on.) but also because saying there's such a thing as "gay marriage" means that there's such a thing as "straight marriage" and that, by default, "gay marriage" is different.
Marriage is marriage. We're talking about legal commitment and the acquisition of rights. There's nothing separate about it.
(p.s. What you say to me, as always, is sweet. I honor your words and the person who wrote them. You're in my thoughts.)
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Date: 2003-11-19 08:32 pm (UTC)I never!
Date: 2003-11-19 07:35 am (UTC)Ack, now I did! You made me say it!
"... to join Princess Vespa and Prince Vallium in the bonds of holy MOLY!"
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Date: 2003-11-19 08:46 am (UTC)A Thing: Nice. I've got me a Powerball itchin'.
Or Two: Law won't take effect until May 2004. The "Supreme" Court gave the pork-rustlers 6 months to figure out "a process." The pork-rustlers said they can't get it done in that time. So I'll help you move in next summer.
Lemme know about mortgages, if you and Wicked Cool Chick decide to take that route. And I like the vagueness about "Western MA," because to most Mass folk, anything west of 495 is "Western MA."
You rock. You two rock. Enough said.
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Date: 2003-11-19 08:33 pm (UTC)Re: May 2004 - Well, it's not like we can move anywhere TOMORROW. ;) We wouldn't be moving until at least next fall anyway, barring random unforeseen circumstances.
And you can be our mortgage god.
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Date: 2003-11-19 12:51 pm (UTC)I think all the other states are gonna have to enact this as well, if only because Mass is gonna get pissed at the massive influx into their damned small state! X D
Congrats!
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Date: 2003-11-19 08:34 pm (UTC)What's dull and boring about all of those perks?
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Date: 2003-11-19 06:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-11-19 08:35 pm (UTC)On the other hand, while I don't necessarily agree in "the institution of marriage" (whatever THAT means), I agree with the rights, benefits, privileges, and responsibilities that come with that term.
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Date: 2003-11-19 09:58 pm (UTC)(I started to play on the "mixed marriage" term and suggest the name "matched marriage," but if you think about the wording, any marriage should be a matched marriage; otherwise, the two unmatched people ought not be marrying.
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Date: 2003-11-20 05:29 am (UTC)But yes, if civil marriage equality was actually granted, I would probably let the term "gay marriage" annoy me. (And still try to get people to stop, but be pleased with small steps.)