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By DEBORAH ORIN

February 27, 2004 -- Democratic front-runner John Kerry yesterday came out for a Massachusetts constitutional ban on gay marriage and suggested that a law he once blasted as "gay-bashing" should remain the law of the land.
Kerry's shift in tone came as Rosie O'Donnell wed her longtime girlfriend and fueled the debate over same-sex marriages - at a time when a court in Kerry's home state of Massachusetts has ordered that they be legalized this spring.

"If the Massachusetts legislature crafts an appropriate amendment [to ban gay marriage] that provides for partnership and civil unions, then I would support it, and it would advance the goal of equal protection," Kerry told the Boston Globe.

Then last night, Kerry told a Los Angeles debate that he's against gay marriage and declined to reaffirm his opposition to the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which restricted gay marriage and which he once called "gay-bashing."

When pressed on whether he'd vote to repeal DOMA, Kerry replied: "DOMA is the law of the land today . . . There are no votes to take it back."

DOMA lets one state refuse to recognize a gay marriage performed elsewhere and in 1996, Kerry said it's "unconstitutional" - because every state is legally required to recognize marriages from all other states.

Last night Kerry flip-flopped and said, "No state has to recognize something that is against their public policy," suggesting the basic principle in DOMA is correct.

He was one of just 14 senators to vote against it.

Kerry's chief Democratic rival, John Edwards, disagreed and pointedly said: "I would not support the DOMA today if there were a vote today."

Both Kerry and Edwards oppose President Bush's call for a nationwide constitutional ban on gay marriage.

On another hot-button issue, Kerry defended his opposition to the death penalty even in cases where a small child is murdered, saying: "The state should not engage in killing." Edwards supports the death penalty.

The CNN debate was the most informal and most pointed of the eight in 2004, with Kerry, Edwards, Al Sharpton and Rep. Dennis Kucinich sitting elbow-to-elbow.

Edwards looked at ease as he usually does at debates but had big trouble explaining his vote for the Iraq war in one of the final debates before next week's Super Tuesday vote in New York and nine other states.

Kerry looked uncomfortable explaining his vote for the war and was the victim of bad makeup that left him looking wrinkly - though it might validate his denial that he had Botox treatment.

Date: 2004-02-27 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maybelater.livejournal.com
Then last night, Kerry told a Los Angeles debate that he's against gay marriage and declined to reaffirm his opposition to the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which restricted gay marriage and which he once called "gay-bashing."

When pressed on whether he'd vote to repeal DOMA, Kerry replied: "DOMA is the law of the land today . . . There are no votes to take it back."


Basically, he's saying "everyone else is doing it, so me too!" G*ddamn, he is sketchy.

Date: 2004-02-27 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] folkyboy.livejournal.com
doesn't this sound like Hillary Clinton? heh

Date: 2004-02-27 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Sketchy indeed. That scares me. He is far from my favorite candidate, but for a while there, I thought he was at least mildly okay.

DEAR GOD.

Date: 2004-02-27 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sudrin.livejournal.com
I only post this in humor, not for any other reason. ;-)

Nader's support of gay marriage sets him apart

WASHINGTON — Liberal activists have urged allies on the left to ignore Ralph Nader’s bid for president to concentrate opposition to George W. Bush. But Nader favors gay marriage, an issue that energizes many liberals but is opposed by the leading Democratic contenders for president.

http://www.detnews.com/2004/politics/0402/24/a04-72847.htm

Date: 2004-02-27 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottopic.livejournal.com
Fortunately, the Libertarian candidates also support gay marriage -- (not to argue, just bring up another alternative).
The two party system needs to go!

Date: 2004-02-27 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
And Dennis Kucinich!!

Date: 2004-02-27 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Bah! Kucinich has always been in favor of same-sex marriage! :) If only he had a chance.

Date: 2004-02-27 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottopic.livejournal.com
Fucking hell.

It looks like "Anyone But Bush" isn't worth it for me this time.

Date: 2004-02-27 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starrchilde.livejournal.com
I have to admit, I agree with you 100%.

Date: 2004-02-27 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
No kidding! It's really scary!

I mean, I'm far from a one-issue voter, but what the heck am I going to do in a Bush-Kerry contest??!?

Date: 2004-02-27 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jwine.livejournal.com
you know? i told myself a couple months ago that i would vote for the person who had the best chance of beating bush--whether or not i liked them. but how can i vote for someone like this?

Date: 2004-02-27 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sudrin.livejournal.com
That's exactly how I felt in 2000! Its like traveling back in time again.

Date: 2004-02-27 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I hear ya, Momma.

Damn. Damn damn damn.

Date: 2004-02-27 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oxlahun.livejournal.com

I was considering voting for Dean on Tuesday to symbolically remind Senator Kerry that some of us don't like the fact that he let himself get duped by the stupidest guy ever to sit in the oval office. I don't actually believe Kerry didn't know Prince George would invade Iraq, so there was something else going on.

I think I may have to switch to Edwards now. And actively campaign for him. I mean, I understand that a majority of people in this country don't have the strong opinion that people should not be denied the right to marry because they're the same sex, and Kerry doesn't want to lose the election on that issue, but he could've stayed with the "states' rights" line and been fine in that regard.

Re: Damn. Damn damn damn.

Date: 2004-02-27 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Exactly. Or more to the point, why aren't the REPUBLICANS crying "states' rights"? Isn't that THEIR party line? Geeze... what an election: we can vote between one of two Republicrats.

Ugh.

Date: 2004-02-28 09:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No lj, sorry. Don't forget guys that although Kerry is saying he is against gay marriage, one he WANTS to WIN and that means getting some of those conservatives that are sick of Bush but still anti-gay marriage. He IS better than Bush, even if he truly is anti gay marriage. Regardless, he is PRO-civil unions that offer protections, Bush is NOT.

Date: 2004-03-02 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Well, I suppose you make valid points.

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