Oh! Oh! Oh!

[judecorp]

I forgot about the best thing ever - my beloved Rafe on Survivor: Guatemala was talking about how well he's doing in one of his confessionals, and he said something about how he never thought a gay Mormon would come this far.

Gay! Mormon! Well, OF COURSE I love him, then. I'm just a sucker for those Mormons! (The gay thing was a given. He was obviously gay from minute one.) I have such a sick Mormon fetish. GAH! I love him so much more just /thinking/ about it, imagining Rafe and a hubby and some cute widdle kiddos playing board games during Family Home Evening.

GO RAFE GO!!

Comments

[estrange.livejournal.com]

I love Rafe - he seems like such a nice guy. I hope he wins. Stephanie is really getting on my nerves lately.

I was surprised when he said he was mormon but that's very cool!

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

I just love him so much!

Right now, Rafe and Cindy are my favorites. Stephenie was getting on my nerves but she's not as much anymore - but I worry that the game is rigged so that CBS can give her the million, just like they needed to do with Rupert.

Still, I was so excited to see Rafe beat Gary out at the last minute! How exciting! Gary really bugs me - I think it's his looks. YUCK!!

[snack.livejournal.com]

you know, i loved the family vibe from the mormons. but i gotta say - they treate their gay members terribly :( i wish they'd just accept.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

Well, I'll give you that. The church's standpoint about queer folks is appalling to me.

I don't know what exactly causes my wacky Mormon fetish... must have been those summers spent at Boy Scout camp! Seriously, though, most of their beliefs don't jive with mine at all... I just have this weird fascination.

Forgive me?

[thatpatti.livejournal.com]

on my way to california i had a layover in salt lake city. for some reason i was totally creeped out by the mormon thing. i kept thinking, "they're probably all around me and i don't even know it because they look just like us!".

heh.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

Except that they're ALL blonde. Well, okay, not all of them, but a LOT. It's kind of creepy.

[snack.livejournal.com]

in some really weird ways i wish i could still be mormon. i loved being mormon. but once you can't justify a belief - then it's gone. i'm not one of those people who can just pretend.

[saldemonium.livejournal.com]

Major icon love!

[snack.livejournal.com]

i stole it from an lj friend & colorized it. :)

it sums up my religious belief in a nice little icon. :)

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

Gosh, I had no idea I would strike a nerve. I'm really sorry.

I know what you mean (kind of) though. I could never really do the "Catholic buffet" that a lot of people do where they believe some things and pick and choose. I have too much respect for it all than that. Rather than "pick and choose," I chose a path that allows me to study everything and form my own opinions... I like that much better!

*hug* There's something so... I don't even know... about Mormons. I never met a Mormon until 1997 (at camp) and I just couldn't get over how... nice they were. All of them. It was crazy.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I didn't mean to. I like you!

[snack.livejournal.com]

my friend - i'm not sure what i said that made you think you said something wrong but you didn't. i'm not mad on any level - kinda wistful in some ways maybe... i loved being mormon. :)

the bad part about it was when my dad was found out as a pedophile - not only did they ex-communicate him, but they shunned me by association. it was heart-breaking to know some of the most wonderful people i'd ever met were as shallow and petty as so many others.

the other downfall was the fact that i couldn't justify the beliefs anymore - i had too many questions and no answers.

that's why i am like you - i have had to go the route that allows me to question, study, and believe what is right for me.

but in no way did your comment offend me - just made me think :) i like thinking! :) *hugs* we're so totally good it's just superfine. ;)

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

I think I'm just a little paranoid about upsetting people these days, which is kind of sad because that's so not like me at all. But since I really dig you, I just wanted to cover your bases. I didn't think you were mad, but I thought maybe I'd said something that made you feel bad. I'm glad I didn't!

That's awful that you became shunned by association. I wish that was uncommon but it's not. My friend's Mom got divorced and they were all scorned, even the kids who didn't have anything to do with anything. So sad!

I like thinking, too. I also like thinking with YOU. :)

[snack.livejournal.com]

i just re-read everything - i see why you thought i was angry .. i was unclear.

i wish the mormons could accept gays - because gay mormons are a fact... but that's not what drove me away from them. it was my religious belief system - the questioning. i couldn't pretend to believe it anymore once my questions took me beyond the answers they had.

not the gay thing. :) i knew from the beginning they were intolerant of that. the spiritual stuff was much bigger.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

It makes me kind of sad when there are flourishing religions out there that don't allow questioning or soul-searching. (And I know there are quite a few, the Mormons don't take the cake on that one.) I know that going to a good Catholic high school was one of the main reasons I'm not a Catholic today (my dad would probably die all over again if he knew that), because they really taught us a lot of the more obscure church teachings, let us analyze them for ourselves, and most importantly, question. I had a great teacher in 11th grade who challenged us to question our personal beliefs at every turn, and I am SO thankful for that.

While many religions don't allow questioning, the LDS Church has that big chunk of "My name is _____ and I know the church is true," script that just leaves me kind of sad, because there's no opening for any other possibility... and it leads to isolation when you HAVE to say it and you feel you have to lie.

It just saddens me how quick LDS folks can turn on each other. An LDS friend of mine has a mom who is (*GASP*) divorced and remarried and it has REALLY shaped her perspective, even though Mom&Kids stayed in the church. And I'm pretty sure she has a gay brother, too. She lives in Utah and is living the Utah life, but she's totally Good People.

[poopsmoothie.livejournal.com]

My best friend's ex-partner is an ex-trans ex-Mormon. Craziness.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

Woah, that's a whole lotta "ex"es in one sentence!

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

And are you talking about Riley?

[poopsmoothie.livejournal.com]

no, as far as I know, Riley is a now-trans never-Mormon. :) How do you know him.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

A million years ago, (before he was Riley, I think) he dated my friend Adrienne.

[poopsmoothie.livejournal.com]

Ohhhh, Adrienne. The queer world is a small one.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

Indeed.

[laserkitty.livejournal.com]

Rafe has probably played the best game of Survivor in my opinion. He hasn't been crappy, he's flown under the radar and he just always seems to be really damn genuine. He's ones of my favorites.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

I just love him! He's so smart and so... nice!

[kat-chan.livejournal.com]

I knew Rafe was a Mormon because I'd read his bio on the website before the season began, and I believe it was mentioned there. I wasn't sure I was going to like him, but I wasn't going to write him off. The reason for that was because he was an Ivy Leaguer, and I still remember Greg from Borneo. The Ivy League folks can be a bit fun and different, and they play a much more mental/psychological game. But there were two Ivy Leaguers this time. Brian was the other, and he was from roughly the same part of Connecticut where I grew up.

I have no problem with Mormons. In fact, it bothers me when people make nasty comments about them (like the one mother on Amazing Race this past week), since my maternal grandmother was raised in a Mormon family. I've met a couple of people who are very pious about their being Mormons, and like to show off about it. One of those was a guy that I was in grad school with. But for the most part the Mormons I have met are very nice people. And when I was in Salt Lake for the Olympics, it was nice to go to a restaurant and not have to deal with cigarette smoke drifting in from the smoking section.

And like you and some others have pointed out, I'm another who dropped from their church (UCC in my case) because there were just things that I believed that didn't mesh with the teachings of the church and I couldn't be intellectually dishonest and pick-and-choose and still believe myself to be a member of the church. The major conflict for me was with regards to my belief in reincarnation and past lives versus the church's belief in an eternal afterlife. So I left one of the most liberal, accepting Christian denominations, all the same. *shrugs* I just couldn't be dishonest and profess to be following the faith when I had a fundamental conflict in beliefs.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've looked at some of his online bios since and he always mentions the Mormon thing... I don't usually read a lot of stuff online, partly because I don't want to get spoiled and mostly because I don't have time. But it's so cute that he's so into his family and he's just so sweet. I LOVE him!!

I think most adults have at least some moments of questioning the faith they were raised with and finding their own paths. I'm always somewhat suspect when I meet people who have never questioned/doubted/investigated their faith or their upbringing.

[amyura.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one with the Mormon obsession. Although it does not extend to any feelings of warmth toward Romney.

[judecorp.livejournal.com]

Oh, gosh, absolutely. There is a DEFINITE ixnay clause when it comes to Mr. Mittens. Gah, I just hate him. I can't wait until he decides to run for president, leaves Massachusetts, and LOSES SO BADLY.