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I am so appalled that Congress will call all kinds of special sessions and be so passionate to get involved in the life and death of one random woman, while they could care less about the lives and deaths of thousands of US children, scores of people in poverty, and entire countries in the Middle East and elsewhere.

Where is the logic here, people??!? The dicksizing that runs rampant through this administration just plain makes me want to throw up. I am so fed up with seeing legislation proposed (and sometimes passed) to make decisions in affairs they have no business being privvy to JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN.

I wonder just one thing: If Terri Schiavo was using Medicaid to pay for her 15+ years of hospital care, would the government be so quick to keep her alive?

(Attention, friends: If you have not done so, MAKE YOUR LIVING WILLS NOW. No, not later. NOW! This could all have been prevented with a little legal blahblah.)

Date: 2005-03-20 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemur68.livejournal.com
BECAUSE IT IS UP TO JESUS NOT US DUH

JEB BUSH IN 08

Date: 2005-03-20 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Jesus 2008! Next Election = Rapture

Date: 2005-03-20 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cfred.livejournal.com
Unless she'd committed a heinous crime like murder. Then we'd have made crispy critters of her, what, 14 years ago?

Date: 2005-03-20 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
The whole pro-life/pro-death-penalty thing just totally baffles me.

Date: 2005-03-21 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemur68.livejournal.com
To be fair, people being pro-choice and anti-death penaly baffles conservatives too. But that's only hypocritical if you believe that zygotes and stem cells have souls.

Date: 2005-03-21 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Yes, I can see where there could be confusion there, too... except that I think some people automatically assume that everyone who is pro-choice would have an abortion themselves. And in many cases, as in my own, that is most definitely not the case.

Date: 2005-03-20 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poopsmoothie.livejournal.com
Right on.

If Terri Schiavo was using Medicaid to pay for her 15+ years of hospital care, would the government be so quick to keep her alive? <--zinger.

Date: 2005-03-20 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luloubelle.livejournal.com
Amen, sister.

Date: 2005-03-20 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunshyne72.livejournal.com
Couldn't agree more.

Date: 2005-03-20 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yotto.livejournal.com
Because one death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.

Date: 2005-03-20 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
That's so true yet so crappy.

Date: 2005-03-20 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenity-coach7.livejournal.com
Right with you!!!

and Completely agree that is was Medicaid we would not have been having this conversation 10 years ago, much less now...

Date: 2005-03-20 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geniusorafool.livejournal.com
Here's my online living will posted in your journal.

1) If I'm a veggie, let me go.
2) I bequeath all of my debt to Jude.

/end living will

Date: 2005-03-20 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Dude, I don't want your debt! ACK!!!

Date: 2005-03-20 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eight.livejournal.com
Agh, Jude, I would generally agree ... but ...

The thing that gets me about Terry is that she's not on a respirator. They're not asking to remove artificial breathing equipment ... they removed the feeding tube, the only artificial thing she was on, so she'll be slowly starving to death over the next few days. I just feel like that's murder.

I just can't see the good in that. And I know Congress shouldn't be poking their heads in, but it still doesn't make killing a woman right. With cases like these, everyone starts talking about getting government out of our private lives, and I'm generally all for it, but you have to think: what civil rights and other decisions would have been made and imposed if the government stayed out?

Date: 2005-03-20 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Hey, wait a minute...

Notice that nowhere in that post did I say that I have an opinion one way or another about whether her feeding tube should be removed. I can't make an opinion about that because I've never seen her, have never received information about exactly what her quality of life is aside from what the media tells me. (And I know better than to believe that.)

What is appalling to me is that this has become fodder for the House and Senate, when really it is such a personal matter. This is one person we're talking about, and all of these men-in-suits are working on saturdays to pass legislation just about her. But they could care less about the millions of other people they give the shaft to every single day.

That's all I'm saying here. (And the little reminder for people to draft appropriate documents so this he-said-she-said stuff doesn't play out in their own lives. If Terri Schiavo had a living will, this would be SUCH a non-issue. Just talking with your SO is not enough!!)

Date: 2005-03-21 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eight.livejournal.com
Maybe I misread, and I definitely think recommending a living will is the lesson we'll all get from this.

And I generally have disdain for the government today and I think you have a good point about the medicate thing, but for some reason, I just don't disagree with the House and Senate being involved. The thing is, they didn't get involved to pass legislation on only this one woman. That was a compromise they made in order to get the tube reinserted.

Date: 2005-04-05 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
But what I don't understand is that the ability to make these sorts of next-of-kin decisions is one of the government-mandated responsibilities/benefits of legal marriage. And now the government is taking one of the responsibilities away. Whatever happened to protecting the sanctity of marriage?

According to the law, it's the husband's decision, plain and simple, when there is no living will. That's just the way it is.

Date: 2005-04-05 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eight.livejournal.com
I guess my reservation in accepting that law is that he's started a new family with someone else and if the family was saying, "He's abused our daughter and he's trying to burn her to cover up evidence," I think it's good that it wasn't just ignored.

It doesn't mean that I agree with every politician and their mothers stepping in on this issue -- I think if judges had stuck with "this is the law, that's that" from the beginning and stopped taking out and then reinserting her feeding tube it would be less of an emotionally charged discussion.

That poor women, I just hope she's at peace.

Date: 2005-04-10 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Well, I don't think we can possibly assume to know the True Story with the way the media warps everything, but I read somewhere that Mr. Schiavo only started dating again after the legal fight to remove the feeding tube all started several years ago. AND he started dating again at the insistence of Terri's parents.

(I don't know if this is really true - who does? - but if so, it does make things look less heartless.)

Date: 2005-03-20 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliann.livejournal.com
I think the most telling readon why they're all doing this came out in a leaked memo from top Republican Senators who called it "a great political issue" and "tough on the Democrats".

It's no about one woman living or dying, it's about shaming their opponents.

I really do think someone of high media rankings needs to point out that it's pretty hard to say we should save the life of a woman in PVS but it's OK to kill people who murdered someone when they were under 18. How is Terri Schiavo's life more valuable than a juvenile's?

(Actually I support capital punishment, but I also think they should let that poor woman die already! And I believe in assisted suicide.)

Date: 2005-03-20 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I hate when people become fodder for politicking. I know that on some level people will /always/ be fodder for politicking, but when it's one individual person it just seems so much more exploitative.

Date: 2005-03-20 04:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] oddharmonic.livejournal.com
I realized I was just going to get pissed off following the news coverage when I saw Rep. Tom DeLay say she wouldn't be forsaken and I wondered what he's doing for his own constituents if he was that moved by someone that hasn't been able to vote in 15+ years.

Date: 2005-03-20 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
EXACTLY.

There are TONS of people who need legislation right now. Whole groups, even!!

DOMA

Date: 2005-03-20 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoo.livejournal.com
Where on earth did all the DOMA advocates go running off to? Here's the state trying desperately to gut the Schaivo's marriage, and it takes the courts to keep insisting that the spouse decides.

Re: DOMA

Date: 2005-03-20 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Ha! You make an excellent point.

Re: DOMA

Date: 2005-03-21 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoo.livejournal.com
Oh and hey, the law is different in Massachusetts. Here instead of living wills we get Medical Proxies, which go one better. Essentially it's a living will that ends with 'And for anything I haven't thought of, I name This Person as the one to make the call.' To be legal it has to be signed by you, your named medical proxy and a witness. No lawyer, no notary, no fuss, no muss.

I took an introductory medicine course a year ago, we all filled one out as homework. I have the template from that if you're interested.

Re: DOMA

Date: 2005-03-22 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Yes, please. That would be fantastic.

Thanks!

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