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I FINALLY finished Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It took my car's 10,000 mile scheduled maintenance appointment (oil change, tire rotation, hose/belt/fluid check) to do it.

FINALLY.

Now we may discuss.

Date: 2007-09-15 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evewasframed.livejournal.com
I can't believe Ron and Hermione had pre-marital sex that resulted in a teen pregnancy. And Harry is GAY? I so didn't see that coming.

*wink*

Date: 2007-09-16 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Ha ha ha, you turd. :)

Date: 2007-09-15 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadist.livejournal.com
Thoughts/feelings/opinions?

Date: 2007-09-16 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Well, I thought that the epilogue was totally stupid. Who the heck cares about "nineteen years later"? So stupid. All so we could learn that Harry named kids after his parents, Dumbledore, and Snape? Whatever.

And basically I thought the whole ending was a little too "as if" for me. Even for a book about teenage wizards. ;) The whole "dead-not dead-go to heaven and chat with Dumbledore" part bugged the crap out of me. BUT WHAT WAS THAT BABY?!????!?

It took me so long to read (having a newborn is like that - I read a chapter here, a chapter there, whenever I could catch a bath) that I totally forget most of it. Like, I know what happened at the end because I just read the end, but I forget what happened in the beginning. Although I know that there was a wedding at the Weasleys', and that the Death Eaters took over the Ministry.

I'm glad Neville got something in this book. I liked Neville. I didn't like that Snape was barely present, and even in the end, something so significant only garnered him a couple of pages. I'm glad Snape wasn't a double-crosser, though.

I don't believe Draco should have been the true master of the Elder Wand. He didn't DO anything besides stand there and be too scared. So why would he be the master? Simply because he was GOING to kill Dumbledore except that the preordained Snape plot happened instead? I think it was BS to make Harry win.

I think they both (Harry and Voldy) just should have died.

You?

Date: 2007-09-16 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadist.livejournal.com
BUT WHAT WAS THAT BABY?!????!? That baby was the part of Voldy that was living in Harry and which was killed.

I am still kinda mulling it over and I finished reading it about two days after it was out. Frankly I think it's going to be a little while before I finally decide. I am going to listen to it in audio before I fully know. . . but to be lazy here is what I posed when I finished it :)

First I have to say that I really did enjoy it.



Second, well. . . what a body count.

Third, the complaint I have seen most often online is one of “what is everyone doing 19 years later?” and, to a point, I agree I wonder. The one person who we get that info about is Neville.


Well I honestly didn’t know what to expect. I knew it wouldn’t involve the school overly much but I am glad that it’s where the final battle was. I think that a few of the deaths seemed, oh, tacked on. . . namely Tonks and Lupin. (p.s. The woman who plays Tonks in the movie is really cute)

I did like that Harry’s kids don’t know that he is famous.



Oh and I know you are kind of catching as catch can but, have you ever considered audiobooks? :)

Sorry I am something of a AB pimp now.


Thanks for letting me read of how things are going. . . I am glad I am able to keep in touch.

Date: 2007-09-16 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
You're right, it was cute that Harry and Ginny's kids didn't seem to know anything about their father. I am glad Harry preferred it that way, and also that the wizarding world stopped making such a big stink about "the boy who lived."

Audiobooks would be great if I could get them at our local library, because we're broke. I'll have to find out if our library has ABs.

And you're right - major body count. Especially those deaths that you don't know anything about, like Lupin and Tonks. It's almost like they just died so you would feel bad for their new baby. And why the heck did they have a baby? That little blurb was kind of stuck in there, too.

Date: 2007-09-16 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadist.livejournal.com
There is a pretty good chance that the library will have them. That's where Jen and I get ours a lot of the time.


Well jude they had a baby because sometimes when two people love eachother very much. . .

;)

Date: 2007-09-19 01:11 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-09-16 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cappucinogrrl.livejournal.com
The baby was the part of Voldemort's soul that was in Harry is the most common interpretation.

I agree with your thoughts on Neville and Snape, as well as the epilogue - I want to know what they DID with their lives. Who was minister?

Draco was the master because he disarmed Dumbledore, it wasn't about being about to kill him. I guess it had to be that way. (shrug)

And, um:

knock knock

Date: 2007-09-16 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurfbrother.livejournal.com
I liked the epilogue - it reminded me, and I did need reminding, that these were books primarily aimed at younger readers. I liked the simplicity and goodness of it. Our 3 heroes married ideal spouses and went on to live presumably normal lives, exactly like I think they wanted.

And I have to admit, I loved the last 3 words. "All was well."

Date: 2007-09-16 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I suppose that's true - it was definitely true to form to a children's book. And you're right, I need reminding too.

I can't believe that Mrs. Weasley called Bellatrix Lestrange a bitch! In all caps!!

Date: 2007-09-17 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurfbrother.livejournal.com
Sure you can - you're a mom now.

Date: 2007-09-17 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Mrs. Weasley does not swear.

Date: 2007-09-16 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Yeah, if there was going to be a "19 years later" bit, I guess I would have liked it to be a little bit more. What happened to George without Fred? Are the Weasley parents still alive? Who is Headmaster of Hogwarts? Are any other characters professors?

Yeah, a longer epilogue would have been cute. Otherwise it just seemed like a couple of pages of Harry's and Ron's kids' names.

WHO'S THERE?

Date: 2007-09-17 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cappucinogrrl.livejournal.com
(Here's where you say: "You know who?"

and I say

"YES! Avada Kedrava!")

Date: 2007-09-18 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I LOVE IT.

(I figured it was something like that, but I love it anyway!!)

Date: 2007-09-18 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cappucinogrrl.livejournal.com
I'm glad. There are too few HP knock knock jokes out there, really.

Date: 2007-09-19 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
If there are more, I know you will find them.

Date: 2007-09-19 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violacat.livejournal.com
What I took from the epilogue, and I agree with your criticisms of it in general, is that Hogwarts still exists, the four Houses still exist (with their same reputations), and the education of young wizards is proceeding as it should.

At the end of Book Six, there was some doubt as to whether Hogwarts would even reopen, and it certainly doesn't seem to have been a good place to be during Book Seven. Remember how Voldemort was intending to get rid of all the Houses except Slytherin? I wondered, based on that and on the fact that all the Slytherins left during the final battle, if Slytherin House would even exist after that, but I was oddly reassured to find out that it does. Uh, in a fictional sense.

(I've decided I'm a Ravenpuff. I just can't decide.)

Date: 2007-09-23 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I suppose there is something to what you're saying. You make some sense, you do.

Ravenpuff kind of sounds... dirty.

Harry Potter of course

Date: 2007-09-16 04:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Okay, I agree with most of this.. but all in all I was fairly satisfied. BUT JK Rowling is going to work on (eventually) an encyclopedia that will address a few of the un-answered questions of what people are doing..as well as the places mentioned in the stories and whatnot. So it may not clear everything up..but maybe a few of the things we're all wondering..plus it gives us something else "Harry Potter" to look forward to besides the movies that will be butchered because the books are too long to do them justice..

Re: Harry Potter of course

Date: 2007-09-16 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
Oh, don't get me wrong. I liked the book, and was satisfied with the story for the most part. It just wasn't perfect. But hey, what is? (Aside from most Neil Gaiman stories. Man, that dude can tell a story.)
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Re: Harry Potter of course

Date: 2007-09-19 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judecorp.livejournal.com
I didn't think it was a rush job, but I did think that she felt compelled to put in a lot of stuff that really was kind of disjointed and weird. Like did it matter that Lupin and Tonks had a baby? What was the point of that, it was just a blurb. I would have liked to see less of that stuff and more time devoted to Snape.

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